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May 1, 2024 edited December 30, 2024 in Get Involved/Indexing

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For entries 40 to 45, The surname is Weiner see also Weiner and Wiener. Should the surname be Winer or contain all three names: Winer or Weiner or Winer?

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  • erutherford
    erutherford ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 1, 2024

    We do not index names that have "see also" attached. The next entry after Jos Winejingren is Alex Winer.

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  • User15699900419382328862
    User15699900419382328862 ✭
    May 1, 2024

    Thank you. That is what I thought, but I have seen the opposite too often.

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  • samshicat
    samshicat ✭✭✭
    May 2, 2024

    Project instructions state the following: "If multiple spellings of a surname were recorded, index all variations in the Surname field, separated by the world Or." So shouldn't the surname be Winer Or Weiner Or Wiener?

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 2, 2024

    @samshicat, no, it should very definitely and absolutely not be indexed that way, because the directory is specifically saying that those people did not have those other names. The "see also" names are suggestions for where to look if the person you're looking for isn't listed.

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  • John David Durham
    John David Durham ✭
    May 8, 2024

    There are many indexers who read the instructions and apply them incorrectly. I agree with Julia, please do not index the records with multiple names listed as another name to be looked for if looking for a person. Ie;

    O'Riley, Sam

    see also O'Reily or O'Reilly, or O'RIlley

    In this case, the indexer would index as follows:

    Surname. O'Riley

    Given Name. Sam

    Julia stated the reason well — ignore the other names because they are merely guiding the reader to other possible spellings in case they can't locate the listing for the way they thought it was spelled.

    There may be one of two small examples where the listing could be used as an OR but in the 750,000 records I've done I don't think I"ve ever come across one in a City Directory listing.

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