How to find a record on Ancestry in FamilySearch

Rolanda Helena Godfrey

Please advise how I can view a death record which appears on Ancestry, but have not been able to find it in FamilySearch

Record: Johan Frederik Kirsten died Cape Town, South Africa in 1890. The Ancestry .com. record is shown as follows:

Ancestry record:

Cape Province, South Africa, Estates Death notice Index, 1834-1956

Name: Johan Frederick Kirsten

Volume : 6/9/276

Reference : 21

Source : Master's Office/Orphan Chamber, Cape Town (MOOC)

Source Location : National Archives, Cape Town (KAB)

Citation Information

Source Information

TITLE : Cape Province, South Africa, Estates Death Notice Index, 1834-1956

AUTHOR : Ancestry.com

PUBLISHER : 2016

PUBLISH LOCATION : LEHI, UT,USA

Associated Facts

Name: Johan Frederik Kirsten

Death: 1890. Cape Town, Cape Colony, South Africa

David Peterson

Although FamilySearch and Ancestry share many record sets, there are some records that are only available at one or the other site. As far as I can tell from the catalog, FamilySearch only has the Deceased Estate Files for the Western Cape for the 1950s.

gary_noble

The record is indexed and searchable https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSQF-Q9VN-9?i=1063

MandyShaw1

Replace the %3A's by :'s in the above Community-mangled link and it will work.

Paul W

@MandyShaw1

Perhaps you could paste the full URL required to make the link work, as I am having trouble knowing which %3A's to substitute with :'s - so still can't get to check out the record.

MandyShaw1

Well I tried but it mangled it again.

Try sticking https://www.familysearch.org on the front of /ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSQF-Q9VN-9?i=1063

Paul W

Thanks, Mandy - finally got there! (Don't know why it didn't work by pasting in two parts: I had to paste the whole lot, then delete the "on the front of" before I got it to work!)

Julia Szent-Györgyi

Here, lemme try… https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSQF-Q9VN-9?i=1063. The trick with the super-mangler is to always use the first button of the annoying menu bar: "display as text". (If you want to link to a different Community discussion, you basically can't paste in the straight URL at all; it'll insist on the full embedded quote if you try, with no "display as text" option available. You have to use the hidden/background link option, meaning that the URL cannot be copied from your post. I don't know what purpose this obscuring of link text can possibly serve.)

(There are generally three colons in FS image URLs: the one between "ark" and the following slash, and two in the alphanumeric segment, which generally begins with numeral-colon-numeral-colon-numeral.)

Paul W

With all the discussion over the problem with showing (URL) links here, we have seemed to ignore the fact that @gary_noble has found the record being sought by Rolanda.

Dare I ask that you provide the link to the indexed record (rather than the image), Gary?!

Julia Szent-Györgyi

@Paul W, on the "Image Index" tab at the bottom of the image, click the piece-of-paper icon at the beginning of an index entry to get to the corresponding index detail page (such as https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPHQ-CFN8).

The original poster was probably not finding it because the dates don't quite match: Ancestry apparently says 1890, while FS says December 1889. (The image says "Filed 6 Jan 1890" in a note across the top.)