How do I view this?
Good afternoon all! Does anyone know how to find and view these records?
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The blurb on the collection landing page (https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/3037614) indicates that the microfilm of the index cards is in Pittsburgh. The index entries indicate that FS also has (digitized) copies of those microfilms; the catalog page for them (https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/575534) indicates that access to the digital images is restricted (lock with key icon), and clicking on one of the icons indicates that the images can be viewed at an FHC or affiliate library. (If you have an LDS account on FamilySearch, the access message may be different; that is not something that I can check, since I am not a member of that church.)
The blurb further indicates that the actual petitions that the index cards derive from may be in one of these catalog entries:
Naturalization records (Pennsylvania: Western District), 1820-1935: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/558485
Naturalization petitions and records, 1910-1911: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/587415
Notice that the petitions are freely viewable from home, but represent only the earlier fraction of the records covered by the index cards.
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Note that the record number is more useful for finding a specific petition than the date: the ones I checked (at random) had the date of the Oath of Allegiance indexed as the event date, but were labeled in the catalog listing according to the "filed date", which was several months earlier.
Example index entry: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7NW8-7LN2
Corresponding petition image: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89LR-B25H?i=668&cat=558485. (The certificate of arrival and declaration are on the prior image, while the oath and order of admittance [and the dates] are on the following image.)
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Thank you so much for your help! I'm a bit confused and having a tricky time finding my great-grandfather's naturalization and Oath of Allegiance. I have the dates for both. Which date do I search for?
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@Stacey7174, I suggest searching by name, to start. (The search fields are on the collection landing page in your screenshot and my link.) The images come in thousand-page chunks, and they are ordered by record number, which likely isn't in sequence for either the naturalization or the oath date, since the process could vary in length. (A quick page-flip showed people who filed in August taking oath in November, December, or January.) This means that browsing by date is likely to take a while, especially given that each person's file is generally three images.
If you post the details that you have, we can try our hands at seeing if he's in there.
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Thank you very much! You are correct, the dates are not consistent. Here is the information I have:
Giuseppe (Joe) Roselli
DOB - 7/4/1888
Died - 9/25/1973
He is from Villa Sant'Angelo L'Aquila Italy
He filed for his first papers of naturalization (Declaration of Intention) on 4/18/1917 in Jefferson County, PA
Petition for Naturalization was filed on 7/11/1922
Oath of Allegiance was taken on 1/24/1923
Domenica Bernabei
Married to Giuseppe Roselli on 12/18/1910
DOB - 4/22/1888
Died - 9/11/1950
She is from Villa Sant'Angelo L'Aquila Italy
She petitioned for naturalization on 4/5/1943
Took her Oath of Allegiance on 12/16/1943
I was told that a wife of a naturalized citizen could petition for citzenship without the "first papers" or "declration of intent".
Umberto Roselli
DOB - 10/7/1911 in Villa Sant'Angelo L'Aquila Italy
Died 5/7/1994
He was 8 months old when they sailed over on the SS Taormina
Obtained citizenship with his mother Domenica
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Unfortunately, based on that information, the images you're looking for are not in this collection: Jefferson County is not Pittsburgh, and 1943 is a decade too late.
While FS does have some naturalization records from the Court of Common Pleas in Jefferson county (https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/196744), they only go up to 1906.
(No, the U.S. does not have any sort of centralized database of naturalization records. In fact, there aren't even really any statewide collections. They're really just tracked by whichever court it happened at -- and in some times and places, people had more than one choice. And, as you can see from even this small example, the location and online availability of the records varies greatly.)
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Ok, thank you very much.
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