US, New England—Petitions for Naturalization, 1787–1906 [Part E] [MQDJ-3Y8]
There is no record date or place on image 1 correct? So just mark it <blank>?
https://www.familysearch.org/indexing/batch/d6aba98f-2690-4f85-9e6f-9a4f1ba1a321
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The date is on image 2, at the bottom (after the oath) -- but I'm not sure this record begins in your batch. Image 1 doesn't have his name anywhere. Shared batches don't have reference images, so I can't check the preceding image, to see if this really is a three-page naturalization record or what.
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Image 1 should be marked NNED.
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I try not to question the experts, but why would image 1 be marked NNED? It has his place and date of birth. I can get the record date from image 2 according to @Julia Szent-Györgyi
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@Lisa Kay Horlacher, but where do you get his name?
If his name is from the preceding image, then the record doesn't begin in your batch, so it shouldn't be indexed in your batch. It should be indexed in whichever batch contains the image with his name, i.e., the beginning of the record.
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@Julia Szent-Györgyi I got his name in image 1 where the witnesses say I first met Frank J. Johnston, the petitioner. Is that not allowed to use as identification?
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Witness statements are excluded and are treated as if they are not there. There has to be a name, either the petitioner or a spouse's for this to be indexed, otherwise, you have the birthdate and place of someone.
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It's not a question of "allowed", but of avoiding duplicate entries. (Sorry, I completely missed that the witness statements name the petitioner.)
To determine the answer to that very first question of "should this be indexed?", you first of all need to figure out what type of record it is, to see if matches any of the things listed under "what to index":
- Index only the following types of documents: Declarations of intention, petitions for naturalization, military petitions, oaths of allegiance, final orders, alien registrations, repatriation records, certificates of admission, and name change records. In addition, index documents that are similar to these form-types.
- Do not index certificates of arrival, certificates of loyalty, naturalization cards, naturalization certificates, or examination records in this project.
It talks about "the petitioner", so I'll guess that it's a petition for naturalization, so so far, so good: it's an indexable type.
The next question is, does this record begin in this batch? If it doesn't, then it will (theoretically) be indexed in a different batch, and if the image doesn't contain any other records, then it should be marked "no extractable data". This is the part that I can't answer based on the shared batch, because (for some inexplicable reason) shared batches do not allow access to the reference images.
But! I finally remembered the "about batch" thingy, which says "Image Name 007283178_00289", which I can plug into the film-number-based URL format (https://www.familysearch.org/search/film/007283178?i=288) and then go back a page (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9H9-69CB?i=287&cc=2064580) to see that no, this record does not begin in your batch. Your Image 1 is the middle of three pages.
I suppose the belt-and-suspenders approach is to index it anyway, on the theory that duplicate entries are better than no entry at all, but the instructions call for only indexing the Oath from your Image 2. (Which is for the same guy and will thus point people at the record even if the petition itself falls through the indexing cracks.)
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