Box for PERSON now has no consistency
I use person box a LOT. Now for the past day or so I have noticed I keep ending up on family tree chart instead of the person, the reason being the Person option to click is moved to the LEFT of the box in some circumstances, and remains on the RIGHT of the box in other circumstances. There needs to be conformity. It has always been on the RIGHT prior to this, please return it to the consistent placement.
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This feels like change just for change's sake, and it's annoying.
On the old person card, which is still what you get for example on the fan chart, the link for the profile details page is to the right of the link for the tree view.
On the new card, which is what you get for example if you click a name in the Family Members section of a details page, the Person button is to the left of the Tree button.
Also, the Sources/Memories/Collaborate links have switched places with the "following" star. It feels like at this rate, I should be happy that birth still precedes death!
Is there some functional reason behind the re-arrangement?
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totally agree with Julia. Seems like "change for change sake" witch is not desired by the majority.
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I can imagine good reasons for the changes:
- Putting the Person button on the left makes a lot of sense, since the Person option is surely used far more often than the Tree option.
- Adding a View Relationship button is a great addition -- you used to have to go to the person page before you could see the relationship, and now you can do it from the person card.
- Putting the Following button in the row of buttons (now that we have a View Relationship button) makes a lot of sense.
I'm sure it's just a matter of time until the new person card is used everywhere and the old person card is retired.
I'm certain that it is never the case that "change for change's sake" is done -- there are always reasons for changes. Not everyone will agree with them, but changes are never made just to make changes.
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Alan, on the right-versus-left question, with two buttons at the bottom of a square like that, I don't think the left-hand button is any more easily accessed than the right-hand one. In fact, I think for right-handed people using something like a touchpad or touchscreen, the right-hand button is probably easier, and even for dedicated mouse users like me, there's a certain conceptual ease in clicking buttons on the right. There's a reason "save" and "post" buttons are usually on that side.
On the top versus bottom question (the placement of the unlabeled versus labeled buttons/links), again, I see no functional advantage to the switch. That row of text could just as well have stayed below the birth and death, and the two mystery buttons could just as well still be above them.
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When I made the screenshot of the old card, it looked vaguely wrong: I could swear there was a different one -- with the same mystery two-boxes icon (for "Show Relationship") as the new card, but still with Person on the right. I found the thing I was thinking of among some old screenshots; I do not remember where this style of card appeared.
There's still a bit of "change for change's sake" in the ordering of the three text buttons, and a bit of button collision going on in that bottom row, but nobody much remarked on (or probably even noticed) the slight changes, since it kept things mostly where we expected them.
I don't mind having big buttons instead of tiny links, and I agree that the View Relationship button next to the star is a nice addition (even if it is unlabeled as to its function), but could they please be put where we expect them to be?
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That is what I was going to bring up. There is the old summary card that still appears in some places, then old-new card that came out with the new Person page update last year, and now this new-new person card which was apparently developed as a result of responding to a request for changes to the new landscape pedigree page as seen in this discussion: https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/150381/sidebar-formatting#latest
This new-new pop up card is the top portion of the landscape pedigree side bar as seen in comparing these two screen shots:
Also, unless I am getting really confused, yesterday I am sure that for a few minutes when I was in a search result list, clicking on the the pedigree icon in a record opened this side bar instead of jumping directly to the person page as it did last week and as it is doing today.
So it looks like they are working on developing consistently in how this summary appears in all places it can be used. That consistency adds a couple of quirks such as needing to rearrange the summary pop up and having the birth and death info twice in the side bar. Having these the same would also allow the same coding to be used for both places.
It makes sense to have the person button on the left in the side bar because you will almost always be coming from the chart to the side bar by moving left to right and having the person button come first saves an inch of mouse movement depending on you screen size. Also, if this side bar is going to show up on search result lists, which would be great, you will nearly always be moving left to right from the list to the side bar and coming to the Person button first.
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I admit that I like the clean lines of the new version. And, I wonder if the change was made for reasons of accessibility. White text on a dark background can be difficult for some to read. Also, the new buttons are larger - easier for those using a touchscreen rather than a mouse.
But, I also agree that switching positions of those same buttons from left to right can be confusing.
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Regarding the star being unlabeled as to purpose - I have a window open right now in Firefox and one in Chrome. The same star button resides in both status bars to bookmark any URL. I suspect the developers believe(d) the open star to be a known symbol for favorite/following.
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Mod note- two discussions were merged here and statements about and linking to the separate discussions were removed.
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@Gordon Collett, thanks for pointing out the thread in the new-pedigree-pages group; it provides the start of an explanation for why this particular re-arrangement. (I don't use the pedigree views, so I haven't joined that group.)
However, that side panel ... um. Needs work. Repeating data like that is just Not A Good Idea; people will assume that there's something different about one or the other, and even without that, it's unnecessary clutter. It's like repeating the first paragraph in every chapter of a book. It also makes the purpose of the buttons opaque: the location is right above Vitals, so will "Person" open an edit pane for the person? I'm already looking at a tree view, so what the heck will the "Tree" button do?
If the idea behind the new person card is to re-use the same programming as the side pane, then you can kill two birds with one stone by re-arranging more completely: move all of the buttons and links up, and either include or omit christening and burial on both the card and the pane.
Having the buttons in the middle of the card like this is admittedly non-ideal, but that's what comes from trying to re-use something in different contexts.
Of course, the really efficient solution would be to just use the portrait-and-name as the "Person" button, and put a small tree icon-button in the row with the star and squares. That is, match the person page header, minus some of the text.
This would leave plenty of room for christening/burial to be included. The drawback is, how do you let people know that the portrait-and-name is a link to the person page? (The portrait isn't, but the name already is such a link on the summary card, i.e., the button is technically already redundant.) Maybe a simple box would do the job?
Highlight and tooltip on hover would of course help greatly in identifying not just that link, but all of the other ones, too.
(Maile's combining of the two threads came right in the middle of composing this, so I had to re-do the illustrations; I hope I got them in the right order.)
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Sorry Julia, for the inconvenience. Your post makes sense to me.
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