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Is there a way to connect my wife and I?

User15856702293801697092
User15856702293801697092
March 31, 2020 edited July 18, 2024 in Family Tree
Is there a way to connect my wife and I?
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  • Cindy Hecker
    Cindy Hecker ✭✭✭
    March 31, 2020 Answer ✓

    All living people have unique ID numbers and no you will not see your wife with the same number because she is living. For example, I have 5 children and each has a copy of the living me with 5 different ID numbers. When I pass all will need to merge into 1. They do this because living information is kept private. Anyone marked living you cannot see in another person's tree.

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  • Brett .
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    April 1, 2020 Answer ✓

    @Larry Hodapp​ 

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    Short answer: NO.

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    We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    We ONLY have "Branches", that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is NOT like "Ancestry_com" or the like.

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    We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" like other "Web" Sites; and/or, 'standalone' personal programmes.

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    We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" with another "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch", regardless of who the User/Patron was that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron who initially created them - they are "Public".

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    If fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch"; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".

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    No other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.

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    We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearchc" of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own "FamilySearch" Account.

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    Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch"; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:

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    - You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.

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    - You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.

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    There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, as you suggest, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User/Patron.

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    There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.

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    "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.

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    Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.

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    Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.

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    I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.

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    So, in essence, there is a way that you can connect to your Wife, you just have to "Create" a "Living" "Duplicate" of her in the "Private Spaces" of you "FamilySearch" Account; and, she likewise can connect to you, she just has to "Create" a "Living" "Duplicate" of you in the "Private Spaces" of her "FamilySearch" Account.

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    Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" (and, other programmes as well):

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    Introducing The Family History Guide

    https://www.familysearch.org/ask/learningViewer/733

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    Introducing The Family History Guide

    https://ps-services-us-east-1-914248642252.s3.amazonaws.com/s3%2Fhelp-learningcenter-fh1-prod-s3%2F2019%2F03%2F08%2F9b82903f-89e0-426f-8815-5e652b960d17%2FIntroducing-TFHG.pdf

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    The Family History Guide

    https://www.thefhguide.com/.

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    I hope this helps, to put things into perspective ...

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    Brett

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  • User15856702293801697092
    User15856702293801697092
    March 31, 2020

    On her login she has a different id number than on my login? When I tried to change her number to the ID number to the ID number in my login, it says invalid number

     

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  • User15856702293801697092
    User15856702293801697092
    March 31, 2020

    Oops, with typo fixed - On her login she has a different id number than on my login? When I tried to change her number to the ID number in my login, it says invalid number

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  • MakataDillonFanohala1
    MakataDillonFanohala1 ✭
    September 12, 2021

    Thank you, I have just started using Family Search and realised my wife and I have 2 different IDs and different family trees. This thread has now answered my query.

    Does anyone else think its silly not being able to be connected to someone living? There will probably be a bunch of merges, duplicates and issues galore not having a simple function as linking to someone who is living. 🙄

    Our Nana had her work done in the Temple by some random... and yet Nana was still alive. 🤨 Weird.

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 12, 2021

    @MakataDillonFanohala1

    FYI

    Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum

    I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...

    There is NOTHING 'silly', about NOT being able, to "Connect"/"Link" DIRECTLY, to "Living" Users/Patrons.

    As explained above ...

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    There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.

    "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.

    Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.

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    Plus ...

    'Yes', there will be, the requirement, in the future, to "Merge"/"Combine", ALL the DUPLICATES, of the later "Deceased" Users/Patrons, that were once "Living".

    [ Not to mention those, in the future, "Deceased" individuals/persons, that were once recorded as "Living" ]

    ( ie. The latter being those that were NOT Users/Patrons of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' )

    As explained above ...

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    'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.

    I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.

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    Furthermore ...

    We ALL make MISTAKES ...

    NONE of us are PERFECT ...

    I would venture to suggest that there are, MANY; Many; many, CURRENTLY "Living" individuals/persons, that are recorded, in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; as, "Deceased".

    Certainly NOT ideal; and, it would be better if such was NOT the case; but, ... such is life ...

    Those CURRENTLY "Living" individuals/persons, that are recorded, in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; as, "Deceased", just need to be found/identified; and, addressed/fixed ASAP.

    I hope this helps, somewhat; and, provides further perspective.

    Brett

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  • Patty K R O
    Patty K R O ✭✭
    September 13, 2021
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/375639#Comment_375639

    The reason, as already explained, is HIPAA laws. It's not really a difficult situation to merge records when someone does; we recently had to do this with my father-in-law. There were 6 records for him and once everyone added his death date in, we chose the most complete record and merged all the others into that one. It only took a few minutes.

    On a side note - once you have your spouse's information added, all her deceased relatives can be added by ID. As soon as the first deceased relative is added by ID, all the information for the ancestors of that person is added automatically. So you can have a connected tree, you just have to add all the living people first.

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