Ease of reprinting ordinance cards

EarlMarshall if it isnt documented it didnt happen

My understanding is that church-wide temples are going to stop returning ordinance cards to patrons. It is very tedious to reprint them for each ordinance, but it would certainly be a lot easier if you could, from the "Completed Temple Reservations" tab, just select the individuals whose cards need to be reprinted, and then have a "Reprint" button at the top of the screen.

Alan E. Brown

First of all, temples stopped returning ordinance cards to patrons quite a while ago as a general rule. There are provisions for doing multiple ordinances for a single person on one day, and there is a way to request a completed card back, but the general rule is that temples retain the cards. This allows the temples to more carefully record the ordinances without having to rush the process in order to return cards quickly.

There are some challenges with your suggestion. For one thing, starting from the Completed list is problematic, since there's no guarantee that you hold the reservation for the next ordinance just because you completed an earlier ordinance. And I don't see how it can be determined "whose cards need to be reprinted" -- that seems like it would offer to reprint the same cards multiple times.

It sounds like you are hoping for a process where you can keep a current set of printed cards, ready to take to the temple the next time you go. I would suggest that these days it works better to have a different process: just before you go to the temple, print just the cards that you need for the ordinances you want to perform. That has multiple benefits: you don't have to keep a file of all those cards, you do a final check that you still have an unexpired reservation, you verify that no one has merged these people or done something else that makes them no longer qualified for the ordinance, and you can quickly sort your reservations by expiration date (or any other filter or sort criteria that are important to you) -- that's much harder with paper cards.

Gordon Collett

@EarlMarshall if it isnt documented it didnt happen Although you can't print directly from the Completed list and if the types of checks and controls that @Alan E. Brown mention would make such a feature impractical, there is a pretty simple way to accomplish what you want to do.

First open your Completed list and your My Reservations list in two separate windows which are side by side. Click on the ID number of the person for whom you want to reprint the card. Paste that into the search box on your reservation list. Click the check box to add him to the list of cards you want to print:

Repeat that for as many people as you wish. Even though you are filtering the reservation list, the program maintains all the check boxes correctly:

This really goes quite quickly. If you paste in an ID number and nothing comes up:

This means the reservation is not on your My Reservations Available tab or Shared With Groups tab. This would be the case if the completed ordinance was pulled by Ordinances Ready from your Shared With Temple list in which case you need to find the reservation there and pull it back to your list to be able to print. The same would happen if Ordinances Ready got the completed ordinance from a family group you belong to but were not the one that shared the name to the group. Since it is not your original reservation, you can't print the card until you move the reservation to your list. These are two of the situations that Alan mentioned that would make it hard to print directly from the Completed list.

EarlMarshall if it isnt documented it didnt happen

@Alan E. Brown , I guess my idea would be to add a check box next to each entry in the Ordinances Completed tab, just as it exists in the My Reservations tab. If I select to reprint the card, and I do not hold the reservation for the next ordinance, that ordinance would be shaded in much the same way as happens in the case where I just print the card for B/C, and all the other ordinances are shaded.

I do appreciate and understand not keeping huge stacks of printed cards due to the considerations you identified, however sometimes traffic is heavier than one anticipates and you miss your endowment session. It is nice to keep a few cards for each ordinance on hand for such eventualities. I typically work on a set of families to complete their ordinances all the way through, so I am pretty sure that all the ordinances will be valid for the next couple of months, because I've spent time in advance looking for possible duplicates, etc.

@Gordon Collett thanks for the suggestion. I actually have been using that technique, just swapping between tabs, but the separate windows is an improvement on my process. I was just looking for a shorter way of accomplishing the same thing with fewer keystrokes, so I think it is still an appropriate improvement request.