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Finding a WWII draft registration card for a Florida man named John Jones born around 1900?

DanielGonik
DanielGonik ✭
June 24, 2023 edited July 26, 2024 in Search

I have a question:

Do any WWII draft registration cards for a Florida man named John Jones born around 1900 exist on Ancestry.com?

FWIW, I think that these are his two 1940 Florida US Census entries: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VTHY-181

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VTHG-3L6

If my information (from the 110 Club supercentenarian forum) is correct, and there's no case of mistaken identity, he claimed to have died at the age of 111 on February 12, 2010. (I have reason to suspect that he might have been 110 rather than 111 at the time of his death, but I can't be sure because he's listed in the 1900 US Census under a different name. So, is it him or an older brother of his? But according to the 1920 US Census, he had a sister born just two years after him, so he could have only been one year younger at the very most, so 109 rather than 110. But all of this is beside the point here.)

I'm wondering if any WWII draft registration cards exist for him because I'd like to see what exactly he claimed for his birth date during this time. He claimed a February 6, 1899 birth date later on in his life, but I don't know if that's already what he claimed in the 1940s. And I could not find any likely WWI draft registration cards for him either (whose collections are available to search on FamilySearch.org).

His likely 1940 US Census entries above should give us indications as to where he was likely living at the time of the WWII draft.

Does anyone here have anything that could help in this case?

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  • James F. Carroll
    James F. Carroll ✭✭✭
    July 9, 2023

    I found two (2) records for a "John Jones" born 6 Feb 1899 in Florida. Both have a middle name other than "Henry":

    U.S., World War II Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947

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    Name John Paul Jones

    Relative J P Jones

    Birth 6 Feb 1899 Mobile, Alabama

    Residence 1942 Mobile, Mobile, Alabama


    U.S., World War II Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947

    Draft, enlistment and service

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    Name John Thomas Jones

    Relative Idella Jones

    Birth 6 Feb 1899 Marion, Ohio

    Residence Bowling Green Twp, Marion, Ohio

    Expanding the search to include +/- 2 years for the birth date and adding "any event" in "Jefferson county, Florida" and then expanding that field to include "adjacent counties" yields 6 WWII draft records:

     U.S., World War II Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947

    Draft, enlistment and service

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    Name

    Johnnie J Jones

    Relative

    David Jones

    Birth

    31 Dec 1900 Monticello, Florida

    Residence

    1942 Tampa, Hillsborough, Florida

    2.

     U.S., World War II Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947

    Draft, enlistment and service

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    Name

    Johnny Jones

    Relative

    Ruby Jones

    Birth

    20 Dec 1901 Madison, Florida

    Residence

    1942 Madison, Madison, Florida

    3.

     U.S., World War II Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947

    Draft, enlistment and service

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    Name

    John McCloud Jones

    Relative

    White Belt Dairy

    Birth

    18 Feb 1898 Dixie, Georgia

    Residence

    1942 Miami, Dade, Florida

    4.

     U.S., World War II Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947

    Draft, enlistment and service

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    Name

    J Paul Jones

    Relative

    Lila Marie Jones

    Birth

    6 Oct 1898 Brooks, USA

    5.

     U.S., World War II Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947

    Draft, enlistment and service

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    Name

    Jacob J C Jones

    Relative

    Mallory Mitchell Jones

    Birth

    10 Apr 1900 Thomasville, USA

    6.

     U.S., World War II Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947

    Draft, enlistment and service

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    Name

    John Johnes

    Relative

    Mattie Jones

    Birth

    2 Oct 1898 Thomas, USA

    Do you have a record for this man in FamilySearch yet? When I looked, neither of the sources you linked to were attached to anyone in Family Tree.

    One of the sources you cited linked to this similar record in NUMIDENT:

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VTHY-181

    Can you please provide links to the 1920 and 1900 census records that you alluded to?

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  • DanielGonik
    DanielGonik ✭
    July 10, 2023

    Here he is in 1920:

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark%3A/61903/1%3A1%3AMNYR-RGH

    Here he is in 1900:

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark%3A/61903/1%3A1%3AM36Q-DMM

    He's listed under a different name here, but his name might have been changed sometime between 1900 and 1920 (I could not find a 1910 US Census entry for him) and while it's possible that it is an older brother of his, it's unlikely because the 1920 US Census shows that he has an 18-year-old sister named Louisa/Louise.

    Louisa/Louise Jones apparently died in December 2007 at the age of 106:

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark%3A/61903/1%3A1%3AVM46-TMH

    This is John Henry Jones in the 1935 Florida state census:

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark%3A/61903/1%3A1%3AMNV6-YX1

    And here he is in the 1940 US Census:

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark%3A/61903/1%3A1%3AVTHY-181

    Here he is listed again, separately, in the 1940 US Census:

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark%3A/61903/1%3A1%3AVTHG-3L6

    It is very likely him because his age and name both roughly match and because even though he is enumerated at Port Tampa, his place of residence is listed as Monticello, Jefferson, Florida.

    Apparently here he is in the 1945 Florida state census:

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark%3A/61903/1%3A1%3AMNXG-7CV


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  • DanielGonik
    DanielGonik ✭
    July 10, 2023
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/518948#Comment_518948

    There's a very real chance that the John Jones who was born in Monticello in 1900 and who registered in Tampa in 1942 is the John Jones that I want to know about. At the very least, it matches the information that was given on one of his 1940 US Census entries.

    That said, though, I noticed that there is some problem in clicking the links that I have provided above, so I think that it would be prudent for me to make a family tree for this man. He apparently died in February 2010, so doing this should be OK, right?

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    July 10, 2023

    Yes, entering a profile for a deceased person is fine -- although given the various census projects and such, do check first for an existing profile (or three).

    The links don't work because the Community software has eaten them. (It applies URL encoding to the colons, turning them into %3A, but then doesn't resolve them back into colons when you try to use the link.) To avoid this problem, do not give URLs their own line, and do not use the "insert link" button from the mystery-meat menu at the bottom of the comment box.

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  • DanielGonik
    DanielGonik ✭
    July 10, 2023
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/519056#Comment_519056

    Thanks, Julia!

    So, I created a profile for him here: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/GWKK-T15

    And also here is a possible 1950 US Census entry for him, but I did not attach it to his profile because I had too much doubt about it due to his children's names not matching with the 1935 and 1940 censuses: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6X2Q-CCGB

    For what it's worth, some research was previously done on this man on the 110 Club forum: https://the110club.com/john-jones-1899-2010-us-fl-t748-s75.html

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  • DanielGonik
    DanielGonik ✭
    July 10, 2023

    @James F. Carroll Also, can you please try doing a search for the name Henry Jones in WWII draft records? He might have gone by that name during this time instead. Apparently he was born in Monticello, Jefferson County, Florida but was living at least part-time in Port Tampa, Hillsborough County, Florida in the early 1940s. This is why I believe that one of the card informations that you posted above might be a match. It does match one of his 1940 US Census entries, after all. The main issue/problem is that I don't know who David Jones is. I don't seem to recall him having a relative of that name. I will continue searching in the meantime in an attempt to solve this question. But Yeah, it's still worthwhile to search for Henry Jones for the WWII draft records since maybe he's listed somewhere over there instead.

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