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Duplicate image-US, New York—Eastern District Naturalization Records, 1906–1957 [Part A] [MQHF-955]

BJGW
BJGW ✭✭
June 1, 2023 edited August 16, 2024 in Get Involved/Indexing

When I click to mark this as a duplicate image, the field opens a suggestion (Image 1 (Duplicate Image) but when I click on that, it doesn't populate the field; that remains blank.

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  • erutherford
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    June 1, 2023

    Image 1 cannot be a Duplicate. @Maile L, do we have a ruling regarding Certificates of Arrival?

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  • Melissa S Himes
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    June 1, 2023

    You would index Image 1 and mark Image 2 as the duplicate image of Image 1.

    I think we must index these Certificates of Arrival because they are stating the person's date and mode of arrival. So they must be similar to any Certificate of Admission (which I have never seen in thousands of these naturalizations documents).

    • Index only the following types of documents: Declarations of intention, petitions for naturalization, military petitions, oaths of allegiance, naturalization certificates, final orders, alien registrations, repatriation records, certificates of admission, name change records, and naturalization cards. In addition, index documents that are similar to these form-types.


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  • erutherford
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    June 1, 2023 edited June 1, 2023

    I just want to see a clear and concise ruling. What may be similar to you may be different to someone else. I'm surprised they didn't include the instruction in this project.

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  • BJGW
    BJGW ✭✭
    June 1, 2023

    Still having a problem.

    Marked Image 1 as "Yes" should be indexed; I indexed it.

    Image 2 is marked "No, Duplicate Image" but the field below in which I'm to identify the duplicate reverts to a blank field after I've entered the information and I can't go any further.

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  • Melissa S Himes
    Melissa S Himes ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 2, 2023

    I see you have submitted the batch, hope you were able to find the drop down list of images by clicking on the down area next to the blank field.

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  • BJGW
    BJGW ✭✭
    June 2, 2023

    Yikes! I didn't mean to submit it. And I did find the drop down list but that's the problem. When I click on it, it doesn't populate the field.

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  • Melissa S Himes
    Melissa S Himes ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 2, 2023

    Next time you get one, try again and share again if it doesn't work. I tried one and it worked so it isn't a glitch.

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  • Maile L
    Maile L ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 3, 2023

    To my best knowledge, do not index certificates of arrival since it is not in the instruction list.

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  • erutherford
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    June 3, 2023

    Thank you, @Maile L.

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  • Melissa S Himes
    Melissa S Himes ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 4, 2023 edited June 4, 2023

    @Maile L Would you please check with the project managers on that. We have ALWAYS indexed COA's on nats. If we weren't supposed to index them, it would be on the list of what not to index. In thousands of nats, I have never seen a Certificate of Admission and that is on the list to index. They might have made an error in calling the COA (Certificate of Arrival) a Certificate of Admission.

    This is an important document for research because it will have the person's name on arrival. The variations in their names at the port of entry don't always show up on the Petitions which are applied for much later.

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  • erutherford
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    June 4, 2023

    How can they be the same if, by definition, arrival and admission are two different things?

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  • Melissa S Himes
    Melissa S Himes ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 5, 2023

    @erutherford I didn't say they were the same. I said the Certificate of Admission is non-existent in this collection and think they may have an error in the project instruction terminology. There is a Class of Admission three digit code, but, I don't think the INS started using them until the late 70's.

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