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I am at my wits end with editing

David Ehrens
David Ehrens ✭
April 23 in Family Tree

I have used the merge feature to connect other trees to my family tree, and for the most part they are correct. However, when they are NOT correct it is almost impossible to remove imaginary children and spouses and family members that never existed. Almost always the detail edit says I can't delete but have to remove relationships. Unfortunately, I can only remove my own known relatives and not these phantom people from someone else's tree. I "get" that you are trying to preserve the integrity of someone else's bad data, but it doesn't help me a bit.

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  • genthusiast
    genthusiast ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 23

    @David Ehrens

    Can you please give an example PersonID - for someone that you are unable to edit? I thought Family Tree was open-edit and that you could edit couple/parent-child relationships however you would like. If not this is news to me.

    You do need to be logged into FamilySearch in order to edit a person's relationships. Is it possible that you are browsing the Discovery Tree and not logged in? Perhaps if you provide a link to what you are seeing - someone can assist?

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 24

    @David Ehrens, from what you wrote, it's not clear what the problem is that you're encountering, and more importantly, it's not clear whether you're aware that FamilySearch's Family Tree is a single, collaborative tree.

    In other words, there's no such thing here as "someone else's data" or "my tree". It's all our data and our tree.

    You should only merge profiles if they're clearly meant to be for the same person. You should only remove a relationship if it never existed. And regardless of whether you're related to a person or not, you should only make changes to a profile if you have good reason to believe that those changes apply to that specific person, not to someone else of similar identity.

    As genthusiast wrote, the Tree is open-edit: anyone can edit nearly anything, after logging in. Therefore, I don't know what you mean by "Unfortunately, I can only remove my own known relatives."

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  • genthusiast
    genthusiast ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 24

     it is almost impossible to remove imaginary children and spouses and family members that never existed.

    Agreed. If I had the reference I would include where Julia indicated she would rather create a duplicate profile rather than attempt to sort out a conflationary mess of a profile. Conflated profiles are sometimes very very difficult to sort out.

    If you'd like a second opinion - you could give the PID of such a mess - there are those here in community that love sorting out such messes.

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  • David Ehrens
    David Ehrens ✭
    April 24

    The record is Isabell Palmer, G6MD-FSR, which was obtained from somebody else but is screwed up. There are a bunch of children in this record who do not exist. I cannot delete this record and I have no idea what FamilySearch means by 

    "This person has multiple contributors and cannot be deleted.

    Instead of deleting a person, consider the following alternatives.

    Edit incorrect data.

    Merge duplicate records.

    Remove or replace relationships.

    If this person never existed, use Get Help and Contact Us to have the data removed."

    Really? Ask for intervention instead of fixing the software? The person DID exist, but the contributed data is wrong. What now?

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  • genthusiast
    genthusiast ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 24

    @David Ehrens

    I see you have done a bit of cleanup on this profile today. I am not sure what you mean by "not from Finland" but the 1900 US Census - Montgomery, Pennsylvania record seems to match the original intended identity of the person that created the record. Obviously the McClintocks are not Humphreys - so yes the Census record need to be reindex in the new 'edit every field' indexing app. I have added Isabel/Belle Humphreys back into the index - hopefully that helps a bit.

    So I am not sure what else you are wanting besides adding the rest of the family into the index?

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