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tomm klein
tomm klein ✭
April 19, 2023 edited July 26, 2024 in Search

i searched for a relative on familysearch, and it pointed me to record(s) on findagrave. but i encountered 2 problems:

1) i clicked on the link, but findagrave said "invalid memorial id". i think this problem may have been reported before, and could be a problem with formatting of the link.

2) when i searched for the person's name directly on findagrave, it couldn't find any records, even though i know there are supposed to be at least 2 burials for that name (KLEIN Imre). this seems to be an odd sort of data problem, where records have been lost at findagrave.

is there a fix?

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 19, 2023 edited April 19, 2023

    The memorial may have been removed since the last time FamilySearch refreshed the record set. The contributor on Findagrave may have removed it or it may have been merged with another for the same person.

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  • No one in particular
    No one in particular ✭✭✭
    April 19, 2023
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/507079#Comment_507079

    This is almost certainly what happened.

    I've run into the same issue you did (bad FindAGrave URL). Unfortunately we're not allowed to edit those listings and there is no option on the listing page to report the problem.

    Regarding your lost FindAGrave's listing: FindAGrave's search can be klunky to use and it's possible there is a listing there but you weren't able to turn it up.

    I'm newish here but I imagine you can post the person's info and one of us would be happy to dig around. I'm unsure if posting it here is fine or if it belongs elsewhere (eg: Search). Billion Graves might also have a listing.

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  • tomm klein
    tomm klein ✭
    April 19, 2023 edited April 19, 2023

    thank you for your help. but…

    i did include the name, Imre KLEIN, dob 1909, and buried in the kozma utca cemetery in budapest. family search registers 2 hits, one died 1934 and one in 1937, both buried in that cemetery. searching findagrave directly doesn’t find either one. (and the cemetery’s website confirms both people, btw. with plot numbers, but i’m looking for the inscriptions on their gravestones.)

    a merge doesn’t make sense, because findagrave comes up with NO hits for that name. and why would they just remove 2 different 90-year old burials? and i couldn’t find them on billiongraves either.

    if you have more luck with the databases, please let me know!

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 19, 2023

    Sometimes you need to check with the names switched, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. Find A Grave does have twenty-some matches to Imre Klein, but I haven't a clue whether any of them are "yours" (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/search?firstname=Imre&middlename=&lastname=Klein&birthyear=&birthyearfilter=&deathyear=&deathyearfilter=&location=&locationId=&memorialid=&mcid=&linkedToName=&datefilter=&orderby=r&plot=&page=1#sr-202706737). (Their count is 34, but that includes a couple of instances of Klein Imréné "Mrs. Imre Klein" and a bunch with just an initial I.)

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 19, 2023

    Profiles on Findagrave, like FamilySearch, are created by contributors. An individual contributor may delete a memorial at any time. I remember when Findagrave was sold to Ancestry, a large number of contributors packed up all their toys and went home. Any contributor can decide to remove an entry at any time. Any contributor can report a duplicate, and Findagrave will evaluate and merge.

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  • tomm klein
    tomm klein ✭
    April 19, 2023

    thanks for the tip about first name last, which is always good to remember with hungarian records. “Imrené” is also good for a laugh, since it’s often mistaken for a feminine form (like Josephine or something).

    btw, this isn’t my first problem with the kozma utca cemetery in budapest; findagrave seemed to have the entire cemetery duplicated under 2 different names. now it seems fixed, in a way…

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 19, 2023

    It looks like a contributor must have removed a bunch of his/her contributions from Find A Grave. It's either that, or stuff got lost in the clean-up of the Kozma street cemetery records, but that seems less likely.

    Unfortunately, it doesn't look like anybody's put the cemetery on BillionGraves -- they have a grand total of 7 Kleins in Kozma utca.

    You could try putting in a request for a photo on Find A Grave, using the information from the Friends of Budapest Jewish Cemetery site.

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  • tomm klein
    tomm klein ✭
    April 19, 2023

    what i’ve done with some other relatives is just add my own memorial. it’s not the best, because i’m just repeating unverified information, but it’s all i can do. i wish family search had a better interface to findagrave.

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  • DavidJohnson
    DavidJohnson ✭✭
    April 20, 2023 edited April 20, 2023

    just to let you know that BillionGraves has loads of images of headstones from all over the world plus this may help to with the work that doing to. hear is the URL link to https://billiongraves.com/ you can do a research person to https://billiongraves.com/search you can use the FamilySearch URL Link to https://grms.my.site.com/solutionsgallery/s/gallery-profile/a2R3Z00000LcZogUAF/05272 you can use the URL https://grms.my.site.com/solutionsgallery/s/gallery-profile/a2R3Z00000LcaZkUAJ/05299 you can use https://grms.my.site.com/solutionsgallery/s/gallery-profile/a2R3Z00000LcaZQUAZ/05295 you can try these one out to see if you can find the Person to.

    I hope this help to

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 20, 2023

    @DavidJohnson, if you read my latest comment from yesterday, you'll notice that I checked BillionGraves, and it does not really have this cemetery: "they have a grand total of 7 Kleins in Kozma utca." (A large Jewish cemetery like this ought to have dozens of people with the surname Klein.)

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  • tomm klein
    tomm klein ✭
    May 12, 2023
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/507127#Comment_507127

    i think they were removed, rather than merged. (it wouldn't make sense to merge KLEIN Imre with some oher name, so there should still be at least one record for that name, and hopefully, similar informations.). thanks for the answer.

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