Records originally indexed now shows a film reel? How to view?

Julie Reindl

The records in question are for the Lutheran church in Gollantsch, Germany. A few years ago, the films were indexed and able to be viewed on this site. I realize things have changed with many of the Lutheran churches in Germany and protected information, but they show just a film reel so we can't even search them. Also in red color on the page is a link to the Prussia, Posen church records but Gollantsch is not included in that database since none of the records come up during searches. Does anyone know where these might be viewable? Is there a chance they could be added to this database? Thank you for any assistance.

A van Helsdingen

The terms under which records are made available on FamilySearch is subject to a contract between FamilySearch and the record custodian.

The Lutheran Church in Germany has for many years been developing their website archion.de and making their records available there behind a paywall. I know of other Lutheran records that used to be searchable but not anymore; obviously the Lutherans do not people using FamilySearch to bypass their fees.

I suggest looking at the Archion catalog here: https://www.archion.de/de/browse/?no_cache=1 and if you find what you want then you can consider getting a subscription.

A van Helsdingen

Also note that Items 4 and 5 of that same film are Catholic records: https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/161780?availability=Family%20History%20Library

FamilySearch operates on an "all or nothing basis" when it publishes digitized films. Every Item must be old enough to publish and have the permission of the record custodian for FS .

For this example, both the Catholics (Items 4-5) and Lutherans (1-3) need to give FS permission to digitize their records. If one denomination refuses, the other's records also cannot be put online. Note that the Catholic Church is often reluctant to let FS publish their records due to theological disagreements with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Julie Reindl

Thanks everyone. It doesn't appear the records are in Archion. It just is strange that they were transcribed and filmed by FS and now it shows a reel not even a lock and key like others.

Paul W

The reel icon means that it is only available to view on the original microfilm - i.e., not available in digitized format. Unless you can locate a Family History Center (near you) that still holds a copy of the film, you will have to visit Salt Lake City to access the material. I understand most FHCs sent their microfilms back to SLC once they no longer had working readers.