use ai to find all probable ancestor connections
use ai to find ancestory trees using probability. allow members to set threshhold values for probability of an likely ancestor and allow ai to search for probable connections using sourcing and stories and demographics. build several generation trees based on probability.
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Genealogy is like sudoku: probability has no place in it.
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Common names and dates will kick right in your face. Been there so probability of such will discourage you in no time.
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This is pretty much what FamilySearch already does. The threshold is set very high for Possible duplicates to try to eliminate every false positive. The threshold is set high for Hints to try to get as many true positives and as few false positives as possible. The threshold is set low for Searches to try to not have any false negatives. They actually do quite a good job with it.
I agree that user set thresholds would be a disaster.
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Genealogy has so many aspects and is very cross-discipline applicable. Mathematics is just a different language .... and is commonly used for processing datasets. Probability/math can/is certainly used in modern genealogy in the hands of those that can speak it proficiently (not me). For an example with sudoku:
https://www.mn.uio.no/math/english/research/projects/focustat/the-focustat-blog%21/sudokustory.html
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(My well-forgotten math degree leads me to conclude that that mathematician's Sudoku solution is basically a brute-force "guess and check" approach.)
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Hmm so I guess sudoku and genealogy are not too similar. With one you have all the possible data you need and can check a 'solution' - and with the other you may not (cannot brute-force records that don't/may not exist - or if you do the 'solution' is not accurate).
Maybe thinking of people merging obviously incorrect persons as AI generated brute-force attempts will help me be more forgiving of those... After all FamilySearch did send a Record Hint...
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I want ai to find up to 8 or more generations of probable ancestor trees and automatic eliminate the duplication and error per family line. I also want family search to scan all the descendants for missing ordinance work and put those names in a group.
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Few items
- 8 or more generations, not practical at all
- Automatic eliminate duplications - too risky, you might end up with wrong line because the names and dates are same but actually not same persons
- Scan descendants - two ways that can backfire big time - one is overwhelming you with tons of ordinance work because there are many contributors who are not members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Second one, you might hit the absolute limit of 300 reserved and you will be forced to share but that create another problem - the others who want to do their own ancestors are being forced to do within 90 days the shared names per policy.
There was one app several years ago, that enabled us to hunt for duplications and clean up ourselves to ensure correct information stay and wrong information out. This same app had two wonderful features - the ability to find duplications of marriage entries and flag the possible bad information.
Automatic purge of duplications are not welcomed at all because they create bad lines and bad information while purging out the good ones too easy.
Personally, in those lights, I say no thanks to the idea of automatization. Even Ancestry and MyHeritage don't want that, leaving only to the individuals to review and determine information the users get within Ancestry, MyHeritage and FamilySearch
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Let's not forget the massive amounts of conflation already in the tree. Conflation begets more conflation. An AI for tree assembly won't be viable until and unless FamilySearch develops a feature that detects conflation, and it has been field tested by users who are expert deconflaters, and it is proven to be reliable.
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I get those all the times and had to undo the merges and send a caution message to the person who did bad merge and post notice (now in Notes with alert) to cease and desist.
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I also want family search to scan all the descendants for missing ordinance work and put those names in a group.
Have you tried Puzzilla? The Puzzilla Premium account already does the scanning for you. Puzzilla is a 3rd party tool to visualize Family Tree. FamilySearch has the Family Group feature. Combining those tools, with a very little keyboarding on your part this task would be largely accomplished.
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FamilySearch has the Family Group feature.
But this feature is for living people to collaborate. I think the request is more about grouping/sorting people you follow. Currently you can Label up to 10 labels and group people you follow under those labels ... Not quite sure if search/sort only displays those result labels.
I want ai to find up to 8 or more generations of probable ancestor trees and automatic eliminate the duplication and error per family line. I also want family search to scan all the descendants for missing ordinance work and put those names in a group.
I'd say a good idea for the beta tree/testing Or give the AI the records and see if it can recreate a tree. Test it.
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Use probability and the resulting tree search to find the most probable connections based on sourcing.
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You're not using all available methods in FamilySearch site, are you? That means taking advantage of the partners' offerings.
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@David Nishimoto Yes AI could do that - BUT - only for sites freely accessible? And really shouldn't be done in production Tree? Build it, test it, see what it does. Let us know how it goes at Rootstech. Good luck!
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The new neural machines can retain memory of associations. It will be the way to find ancestors because of the speed of finding these connections from the vast human tree.
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