The 110-year rule

TomAlciere

It is mind-boggling difficult to find instructions for using Family Tree. I found a copy of an old post of mine in which I provided a link to where the 110-year rule was, but today when I clicked the link the article was gone. Where is the 110-year rule now?

Julia Szent-Györgyi

As far as I know, the guidelines for when you can assume a person is no longer living are just that: guidelines, not rules. That said, I found an article in the Help Center (https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/how-does-family-tree-determine-whether-a-person-is-living-or-deceased) that mentions both the 110-year and 95-year "rules".

KathrynVanWagoner

I use google most often when searching. "Familysearch 110 rule" brought up this.

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/img_auth.php/c/c4/FT-04_Starting_Family_Tree_-_Submitting_Names_for_Temple_Ordinances_handout_Jan_2021_JMR.pdf

I'm always hopeful any outdated info has been removed, and what I'm finding is the most recent.

Dennis J Yancey

right there on the same tab that you use to see your pending temple work -- is a link to see "Temple reservation policies"

which links to this:

https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/individuals-for-whom-i-can-request-temple-ordinances

also the HELP center is a great tool to find answers to questions

https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/landing

at the help center you can use numerous terms like "Temple Ordinances" to find a wide range of topics and FAQ's

see: https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/search?q=temple+ordinances

TomAlciere

TomAlciere

I didn't mean temple ordinances. I meant listing somebody on Family Tree and marking the person as deceased without any source for the death. Some persons figure you must be dead when you're a certain age but the rule is they must be born at least 110 years ago; or married or had a kid 95 at least 95 years ago. I cannot find that rule. That is to avoid disclosing on Family Tree information about living persons.

Quint Hurst

@TomAlciere

In FamilySearch you click the (?) in top right which brings up the help menu. Select ( Help Center). Choose (VIEW ALL). Then select (Temple). Choose (What is the 110-year policy, and why was it initiated?)

Paul W

There should be no need to select anything under "Temple". There should be an article under Help that should be framed to give advice to all Family Tree users, not just "LDS".

@TomAlciere is not receiving a suitable reply to his question - even if it is a negative one saying the old article has not been updated.

Dennis J Yancey

https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/467902#Comment_467902

agreed -- now that I understand what is being asked

I mis-interpreted this to mean the rule about submitting temple names within the 110 years

TomAlciere

https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/467903#Comment_467903

This answers my question. Now, from FamilySearch home page, how does somebody find that page withoutn already knowing where it is?

Dennis J Yancey

from the FS home page - on the top right is a question mark icon ("help area") (among other icons)

under that "?" icon you will find various help resources

one of them is the "Help Center"

From the Help Center - you can type in any keyword and have it find an article with that keyword

the particular subject you were looking for is a little bit tricky as to what key word you should use

BUT if you type in "110 rule" - the article cited above should be one of them that pops up.

The question mark icon is a pretty common symbol across many applications that often represents HELP links.

You can also BOOKMARK the help center so that you can go right to it directly.

But the simple answer about deceased/living rules -- is as Julia points - if you don't know a person is deceased - then leave them as living.

(there will be many things that there could possibly be a rule for - but in general try to avoid assumptions - and just input the information that you know the evidence supports.) If you dont have a death date - then unless it is impossible that they are still living -- leave them as living.

Julia Szent-Györgyi

@TomAlciere asked:

Now, from FamilySearch home page, how does somebody find that page without already knowing where it is?

Unfortunately, like most things in the Help Center, I think the answer is that mostly, you don't. I can't even re-create the search that finally led me to that article.

But then, I went for over a decade using FamilySearch without ever hearing about the 95-year-rule, and only being vaguely aware of an LDS 110-year-rule. I use a more stringent requirement, one not based on any help article or instruction from any website, but on common sense: if I do not have evidence of death, and there's a biological possibility that the person is still living, I don't create a profile. I apply that same bar everywhere online, except for a few placeholder profiles that are needed for various connections. (Placeholders have nothing entered that isn't in the phone book or its internet successor.)

Dennis J Yancey

also many people find that GOOGLE is much better at locating items in the help center - then is even the Help Center Search option itself.

If you go to google.com

and type in 110 FAMILYSEARCH HELPCENTER

(be sure helpcenter is one word)

Your article comes right up on the first page of results.

https://www.google.com/search?q=110+familysearch+helpcenter&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS830US830&sxsrf=ALiCzsYAJcdYAos9crPgA4MK964e_WJkJA%3A1661820885996&ei=1V8NY_ucPPuqwbkPl9e-oAs&ved=0ahUKEwi729ucre35AhV7VTABHZerD7QQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=110+familysearch+helpcenter&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBAgjECc6BAgAEEM6CAgAEIAEELEDOgUIABCABDoHCAAQsQMQQzoKCAAQsQMQgwEQQzoJCAAQHhDJAxAWOggIABAeEA8QFjoGCAAQHhAWOggIABAeEBYQCjoFCAAQhgNKBAhBGABKBAhGGABQAFicGmD9HGgAcAB4AYABgQOIAZ4kkgEIMC4xOC40LjKYAQCgAQHAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz