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Please keep the original file of an ancestor and only add

Carol Volker Hamblin
Carol Volker Hamblin ✭
May 19, 2022 in Suggest an Idea
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CD HAM <[email protected]>

Wed, May 11, 1:43 PM (8 days ago)


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   I have an idea. 

People have said that we 

wish to create one file for each person on the Family Search Program. The Family

Search Site is open to every single person in the world who is alive and wishes to

write on the program. 

My idea:

1) Have it available where people can only add information to a file on the source page 

and the memory areas of photos and documents.


2) Have it where people cannot change anything on the profile page as it exists.  


Then, the correct information

does not get scrambled and 

the new information is added carefully to sources or memories.


The integrity of the ancestor remains protected and respected with everyone

in the world contributing and not destroying nor scrambling the written history of the

World Wide Family Tree available through The Family Search Program. My thought is

that people are free to add and contribute information without destroying what is correct.


   As long as there is a puzzle, each person can add what they see to be missing yet

people aren't given license to knock the puzzle off of the table. I think this can work to

create more positivity in this great and excellent work! I am grateful for all of the work

that has gone into the Family Search Program!! I want this World Wide Family Tree to

be a success now and into the millenium. Several people tell me that we will have to fix

all of the mistakes in the millenium. Can't we get as much of the truth correct now?


                                            Carol Hamblin

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  • Gordon Collett
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    May 19, 2022

    The main trouble with this is that so many pages for people in Family Tree are incomplete and incorrect. All of us make mistakes. Even me. Even you. Personally, if I have made a mistake in the data for a person I would love to have another family member find and correct that error. To freeze those mistake forever would terrible. None of us can find all the information on a person. If I have created a profile and could never find a death date but another family member does, of course I want that relative to add the death date to the profile.

    My great-great-grandfather's information on Family Tree is all correct, as far as we know at this point. One hundred and twenty one people have contributed to his record. Who of all these would get to claim that he or she is the one that "owns" that record and is the only one that can make changes? Eleven people are watching the record to make sure no errors are introduced. This system is working quite well the way it is.

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 20, 2022

    @Carol Volker Hamblin

    Carol

    I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...

    Just in passing ...

    I 'hear' you suggested enhancement ...

    [ And, I understand, the thinking behind it ... ]

    But ...

    That Said ...

    'NO'; 'No'; 'no' ...

    It would appear, that you are one, of many, that DO NOT understand the basic, 'nature'; and, 'premise', of the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

    You are not alone ...

    MANY; Many; many, of us, ... have been there ...

    Many of us have had 'wayward' "Changes" made to our "Ancestral" Lines ...

    Now ...

    That Said ...

    Please be aware, that technically, one DOES NOT, have a "Tree", in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' ...

    Please let me explain ...

    Technically, there is no way, to STOP, another User/Patron, working along the SAME 'Ancestral" Lines.

    Unfortunately, such CANNOT be prevented.

    As, basically, we are all related.

    One's "Ancestral" Lines, are most likely ALSO another User's/Patron's "Ancestral" Lines, in fact, probably, that of quite a few other Users/Patrons.

    Now ...

    That Said ...

    Basically, we DO NOT have, a "Tree", in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', than is common misconception.

    And, OTHER Users/Patrons, DO NOT need/require, our (ie. one's) "Permission", to "Change" the information/details of "Deceased" individuals/persons, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.

    Here an old 'standby' of mine, that I have previously proffered on occasion ...

    ------------------

    Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons, DO NOT, understand, the basic 'nature' and 'premise', of the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.

    Please let me explain ...

    [ And, please bear with me; as, I am VERY 'Verbose' ... that is my 'style' ... ]

    We do not have our OWN "Tree", in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

    We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

    The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).

    We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees', in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.

    We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons, in "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

    And, most importantly ...

    We DO NOT even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, Our OWN "Deceased" Ancestors/Family/Relatives, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

    The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any "Registered" User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'. 

    ------------------

    In other words ... "Collaboration" ...

    Of course ... often ... easier said, than done ...

    [ Sometimes, no matter how hard one tries, "Collaboration", does not work ... such is life ... ]

    We ALL make MISTAKES ...

    NONE of US are PREFECT ...

    None of us want to have our "Ancestral" Lines 'messed up'; but, unfortunately, it happens.

    I know, that this certainly does not help/assist; but, I hope, that this may provide you with, some additional, insight; and, perspective.

    Brett

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 20, 2022

    @Carol Volker Hamblin

    Carol

    Furthermore ...

    Just in passing ...

    FIRSTLY ...

    That is exactly why, many Users/Patrons, ALSO maintain their own PRIVATE "Database(s)" (ie. Copies) of their "Ancestral" Lines , on 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).

    And ...

    SECONDLY ...

    All that one can really do, is 'Monitor', one's "Ancestral" Lines, for 'wayward' CHANGES, by OTHER Users/Patrons.

    Nothing more, nothing less ...

    As an aside ...

    IF, you were not already aware; THEN, ...

    In "Family Tree", of "FamilySearch' ...

    We have the ability to "Watch" (Oops, sorry, 'old school', "Follow"), up to a MAXIMUM of x4000 individuals/persons, at any given time.

    Basically ...

    It is a matter, of "Following", one's MOST important Ancestors.

    Just to keep on top, of any 'wayward' CHANGES.

    I check, the "Changes" to those that I "Follow", on a "Daily" Basis; so that, I can keep on top of things.

    More often that not, nothing needs to be done; but, at least, I have the opportunity, to be abreast of things; as, they happen/transpire/unfold.

    Just my thoughts.

    Brett

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