No Extractable Data images/pages
I couldn't find any info about the above. What happens with the No Extractable Data images/pages? Do these get resorted or deleted? Does someone look at these to make a final determination? Does someone try to match them up with other No Extractable Data images/pages?
Thank you in advance,
Faith
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Anything marked No Extractable Data is reviewed to see what should be done with them. Whatever happens to them they are not lost.
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Thank you for answering my question but I have anther one.
What do you do when I page is extractable and the other is not when they are both on the same image?
Faith
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Hi @FaithHamm Please provide the batch code found in the brackets to the right of the name of the project you're indexing, like this [XXXX-XXX] to help us give you a more complete answer. Generally, the rule is "type what you see" and if part of the image is unreadable, you mark that item as unreadable.
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You'll only have one entry instead of 2.
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Thank you so very much.
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Well my leaving a comment didn't go according to plan it message someone instead and for which I will apologize for a head of time.
This is a similar batch that I had referred to as two entries on one page, US, New York—Military Discharge Records, 1865–1946[M3Q7-K1Y]. I know that you only enter records that have a matching data. With the images indicated below. Image on the left side of the page does not get indexed since it does not have a matching Honorable Discharge certificate. The image on the right has a Honorable Discharge certificate with the corresponding image on Page two of the right side of the image, so both of these get indexed, that is my interpretation of the instructions. What happens to the left image on page one since you can not mark it "No Extractable Data".
And say Page two (as an example) was the last entry of page four. From what I also interpreted from the instructions would enter the data from the Honorable Discharge Certificate with no matching image, am I correct in my understanding of the instructions.
Sorry for all of the questions, I am just trying to ensure that I am indexing these correct or reviewing them correctly based on the instructions.
Faith
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It is better if you simply provide the batch code and then hold onto the batch until you have an answer to your question. If you still have the batches and there is some other reason that it will not allow me to open it, I apologize in advance. (But, please let me know if you have not submitted them, because that is sometimes a problem).
I'll try to answer your question using the screen shots.
According to the Project Instructions and the examples, the Indexing Entry is always done on the image with the Honorable Discharge Certificate, or the pretty parchment with eagle on it. The matching Enlistment Record is used to fill in the blanks on the entry form.
So, on your screen shots, On Image 1 of 4, you would create ONE entry for the individual on the right side of the document and use the information from Image 2's left side to fill in the missing information.
On Image 2 of 4, you would again create ONE entry for the next individual on the right side of the form using Image 3's left side to fill in the missing information.
Since last image in your batch most likely has another Honorable Discharge Certificate on the right side, then you would use the reference image +1 to fill in the necessary details to complete the entry for that soldier.
You need to keep your reference image window open to make indexing easier. This way you can view Image 1 and 2 at the same time and garner the data you need to fill in the required fields.
Does that make sense? Let me know.
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Here's a link to a batch that is similar to yours:
https://www.familysearch.org/indexing/batch/d9560b76-8edb-4580-b9f7-803c5ad7000a
Notice how the indexer did not use the left side of image 2 to fill in the birthdate and place for this soldier and on review I am correcting it.
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Hi @FaithHamm With the explanation given by @Melissa S Himes, I looked at your questions again to see how to answer What happens to the left image on page one since you can not mark it "No Extractable Data". -- The left image/page was used by someone else to index a soldier with a matching Honorable Discharge Certificate. This way none of the information on the left side of the first image/page is ever lost. 😎 (Melissa, I hope I got this right/correct!)
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Correct, @maryellenstevensbarnes1 - the left side of Image 1 is going to be used by the previous indexer to fill in the blanks on that soldier's Honorable Discharge form. So, Faith will have ONE entry on Image 1 using the Honorable Discharge Certificate on the right and find further information on the left side of image two! Nothing is ever lost.
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Hi @Melissa S Himes and @maryellenstevensbarnes1
Your information was very helpful and useful because I didn't know where the Date Of Birth and Place Of Birth was coming from for the last entry for the Honorable Discharge certificate, when I clicked on the URL link, so I am grateful for that information. Know this makes total sense to me.
I didn't know that I should hold on to the image that I was making a reference about, since it was more of a question of an how to. To me, it made more sense to put it back in to the que for someone else to index or review and who has more knowledge than me.
Thank you both for this information and I shall take all of this and use it going forward.
Faith
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Glad to be of help, Faith. Lots of people don't know that you have to hold on to those batches, because once they are submitted, they can no longer be seen as shared batches.
Another tip for newer users is that It is really important to read the project instructions, and every field help and to look at every example before beginning a project. The project instructions can be brought up at any time by clicking on the last icon in the horizontal toolbar or through the help menu. In this project, the examples are also going to direct you to look at the General Indexing Guideline (GIG) sections to learn more about "What to Do When Records Span 2 Images or to View Additional Images". It is also very helpful to read the GIG links often until they are committed to memory. These are the basics for all indexing and we fall back on them when the project instructions don't give us clear direction on a situation.
I highly recommend watching a couple of videos for people who are new to web-indexing and reviewing.
The first one is a discussion with the late Jason Pierson who was instrumental in creating this program. The actual lesson begins at about the 8 minute mark.
Indexing Discussion (Jason Pierson Live)
FamilySearch Web Indexing - The New Review Process 2020
Keep asking questions! We all started out "not knowing", and some of us (like me) asked hundreds of questions in order to better understand the FamilySearch indexing program. Asking questions is what will make you a really good indexer/reviewer.
Happy Indexing!
Melissa
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