The “Magic” Behind Ordinances Ready • • FamilySearch Blog
The “Magic” Behind Ordinances Ready • • FamilySearch Blog
Learn how Ordinances Ready finds reservations and try it for yourself on your next trip to the temple.
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The Ordinances Ready process is a wonderful help. It just needs to be presented a bit more personally. We should not be thinking of "taking names to the temple." We are gathering names of real people who are very much alive, and desiring to be freed from spirit prison, thus allowing them full membership privileges and the ability to hold leadership and teaching callings for the benefit of the billions of people still in spirit prison who also need and often want membership for themselves. By properly performing ordinances for those that really are our ancestors, we are blessing them with the same blessings we have as members in the same Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and continue the work of the gathering on that side of the veil as well. We are not doing ordinances for "names" - we owe it to them to be thinking of them personally as we go about this work. And we also have a responsibility to verify that they really are in the proper relationship place on the Family Tree before we perform their sacred ordinances.
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Many of us are concerned that in Ordinances Ready we need to check each ancestor's Person Page to check for Possible Duplicates and to see that we are doing their ordinances in the correct order. Is this detail being worked out? Thank you for all of your help.
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Would it be useful to only "find" names of people who have at least one source added? Steve Larsen
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Ordinances Ready does not allow me to search for female only ordinances. I cannot do male ordinances.
I wish there were a way to filter for gender.
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Ordinances Ready provides four names at a time.
I complete four names, drive home, print four names, return to the temple and complete the baptisms, drive home, print four names, return to the temple and complete the baptisms, drive home, print four names, return to the temple and complete the baptisms, drive home, print four names, return to the temple and complete the baptisms.
The cost of gasoline is a big part of my budget. Do you think the Church might reimburse me for the cost of gas?
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This is a great feature! I'm so glad you spelled out how it works because I've often wondered how the names get selected. It's been cool recently being able to see the names of the people that have reserved names I've shared with the temple. Great updates!
As for the number of ordinances generated, I know that it works with the maximums set at the temple based on the time allotted for performing ordinances. For example you can do multiple baptisms in one trip, but only one endowment. The ordinances ready button knows of these constraints so it generates them accordingly. If you run out though, the good news is that you can do all of this from your phone and the record desk will print off more sheets for you just by showing them the QR code on your phone!
As for generating ordinances for the other gender, this is a constraint of your account since it is for your own family tree. You can only perform ordinances for people of the same gender, so if you need ordinances for your spouse, they should log into their account and run the ordinances ready feature too!
Love this feature, very slick, very useful, I wish more people knew about it!
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@Kenny Eliason & @Smyth MJ It would be more helpful if temples were simply allowed to apply their own policy limits on the number of ordinances a person can do at one time, such as four baptisms, rather than FamilySearch imposing that limit across the board. We're asked not to use our phones in the temple, and asking them to print out more ordinance cards through that method is an additional burden on the temple workers up in the office.
Additionally, if a temple is not particularly busy at some point and someone wants to do more than just four baptisms (or whatever the limit is in that particular temple), they have the option of allowing more to be done at one time. Also, some people, particularly those that have to travel long distances, may want to do more than one endowment in a day. And often people ask members of their ward or branch to take ordinance cards for their family to the temple, which also would be facilitated by the ability to simply print out as many at one time as a particular person needs, rather than limiting the number of ordinances that can be printed. For that reason, the limit needs to be removed, and allow the person to deal directly with the temple on how many they can accomplish at one time. Ordinance workers (especially in the baptistry and initiatory) are quite used to dealing with limiting numbers when they're busy, vs. relaxing the limits when circumstances allow, and at least our temple presidency allows that flexibility for those attending the temple.
@BettyKlements1 Second, I think it's a mistake for us to NOT go in and check all elements of the suggested name from Ordinances Ready. If they don't have sources (such as what was mentioned by @SteveLarsen above), that should be immediately suspect to each one of us. Too many people blindly just receive some names through Ordinances Ready, pack up and take them to the temple. Ordinances Ready does not verify that each of those names really are your ancestor - it's just the best computer-analyzed "guess" that the name is that of your ancestor. We should always be checking details just as we should be doing when we add names to Family Tree, seeking as many good sources per person as possible, checking for duplicates and resolving those, etc. (and also making sure ordinances weren't already done for the duplicate). Far too much time has been wasted doing unnecessary ordinances, or else doing ordinances for someone who is not actually in our own ancestral line, thus requiring even more time and effort to re-accomplish those same ordinances once the mistake is noticed and corrections made. We have a responsibility to be familiar with the genealogical proof standard, and do our best to "prove" each ancestor is our own before wasting precious temple time, and perhaps thinking that we've now completed someone's ordinances when in fact we did them for the wrong individual.
Ordinances Ready is a marvelous tool, and it's very reassuring to now see all the analysis that goes into generating those names. We just need to understand it's not guaranteed accuracy even with all of that. Ordinances Ready can only be as accurate as the information people are supplying to Family Tree, and we all know that some beginning researchers often put same-named people into our family lines that are not the same person. That mistake was glaringly evident on a tree over in Ancestry.com where it showed many more children in my grandfather's family than I knew for a fact existed - I'd met every one of his four sisters, and knew he'd only had one brother. Yet that other Ancestry.com tree had many more.
What happened? My grandfather's brother (Melvin J Quinn) was born on 30 January 1894 in Orange, NJ. Literally, just blocks away (walking distance) across the city boundary dividing line, another Melvin J Quinn was born in West Orange, NJ, only six days later in a completely unrelated (or distantly related) Quinn family. So it would have been easy for a FamilySearch user to find the same person and erroneously assume he was MY great uncle, and put him in the tree (or even make a change to remove my grandfather's real brother and substitute the other person living just blocks away in a different but very similar city name). And that could have easily shown up in Ordinances Ready. These entries are our responsibility to verify before we do work that we consider sacred, in order to make sure the information is also confirmed to be as accurate as possible between the time we get the Ordinances Ready name and then go to the temple on behalf of that ancestor.
Just my 2¢ 😊
--Chris
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When our family is going to the temple, I wish that I could select to find names for my children as well, particularly those of the opposite gender. I’m sure the spirit is that each person logs in and prints their own names, but when we’re trying to get 6 of us to the temple each with our own names, it’s so much easier for me to just go in and print the names. Same when my wife and I want to go do an endowment. I have to login as me and print names and then logout as me and then login as her to get her a name. I wish we could select for members of our family. It is great that the temples are allowing the youth to display the names and have them printed from their phones. How hard would it be to have them just add the temple recommend into the phone in Tools as well! That would be the day! 😀
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If you have ordinances already reserved, you can just use the regular print functions on the Temple Tab under "My Reservations". You can print ordinances of either sex here and as many as you need. If you don't already have ordinances reserved, you can work on adding new family members to the Tree from records and then reserve those ordinances. Or you can search in your family lines to see if there are people that others have added that may still need ordinance work.
The purpose for Ordinances Ready is for those who don't already have ordinances reserved to be able to take a related person to the temple for the type of ordinance you are requesting. This feature is for the logged in sex of the user for the amount of names available per temple ordinance session. Children who are old enough to participate in temple baptisms should have their own accounts.
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I like what @Amy Archibald said regarding printing from existing reservations you've previously made - presumably we've verified those names ourselves, not just reserved them. The idea is not to simply think in terms of "getting" a name and taking "it" to the temple. It's our responsibility to our ancestors to verify that names showing up in Ordinances Ready or the ones we find and add to Family Tree, really are the names of our own ancestors who are waiting on us to complete their ordinances - not someone with a similar name born around the same time.
I also agree with her regarding children that are old enough to have their own recommends, also having and actively being shown how to use their own FamilySearch accounts. It's not intended to be a rushed effort to "get to the temple" and not have enough time to prayerfully consider and verify the names of our own family members who know us, and who are waiting on the other side for us to go and reverently perform those ordinances for them. If our children are simply handed names by mom and dad who hurriedly find them, then the children won't be learning the true intent and spirit of the work. And we may even be wasting precious temple time going through the motions of performing ordinances for someone we're not even really authorized to be proxy for, when they're not really our ancestor.
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Why doesn't Ordinance Ready show all of the names I have shared with the temple that are ready for a particular ordinance?
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Thank you for your question. Ordinances Ready is meant for finding ordinances for one temple appointment for the logged in sex of the user. If you have already reserved names for the temple, it is best to use the filter features under "My Reservations" to find the ordinances you need. You can filter using "Perform Next" and then only check the ordinance you are looking for in the filter.
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I love the help this program gives to me and others in gathering Israel. There is only one thing I would change. When searching for sealing opportunities I wish the program could automatically filter out those whose previous ordinance (s) were not complete.
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Please sign in with your FamilySearch account to see this Help Center article: Why are the temple ordinance dates out of order in Family Tree?
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This is so frustrating! I can't get ordinance names on the computer only an app
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Please contact FamilySearch Support.
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