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What does F FB, F SB, M FB, or M SB mean on a Birth Register list?

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  • Rosabelle Pettross
    Rosabelle Pettross ✭
    April 4

    On a Birth Register list, where F or M together with FB or SB is listed on the First Name line, I know that F stands for Female and M stands for M; but does FB stand for First Born and SB stand for Second Born? I understand that if it's just F or M I should show First Name as <Blank> and Sex as either F or M. However, if it is listed as F FB, F SB, M FB, or M SB, what am I supposed to do with that? What I did with the batches I have already indexed, is on the First Name line, I put FB (First Born???) or SB (Second Born???) and Female or Male on the Sex line. Please help!

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  • MinnWisRoots
    MinnWisRoots ✭✭✭
    April 5 edited April 5

    @Rosabelle Pettross

    Please repost your question as a NEW Question and share your batch so someone may help you directly.

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  • Rosabelle Pettross
    Rosabelle Pettross ✭
    April 6

    On a Birth Register list, where F or M together with FB or SB is listed on the First Name line, I know that F stands for Female and M stands for M; but does FB stand for First Born and SB stand for Second Born? I understand that if it's just F or M I should show First Name as <Blank> and Sex as either F or M. However, if it is listed as F FB, F SB, M FB, or M SB, what am I supposed to do with that? What I did with the batches I have already indexed, is on the First Name line, I put FB (First Born???) or SB (Second Born???) and Female or Male on the Sex line. Please help!

    https://www.familysearch.org/indexing/batch/75103803-fa62-4e7d-8908-e6ac6605ded0

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 6

    I'm looking at the image from your batch link. The NYS birth index would not report the number of the child.

    It's possible that SB indicates a stillborn child, but I would hesitate to make that leap without more information.

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  • maryellenstevensbarnes1
    maryellenstevensbarnes1 ✭✭✭
    April 6

    Hi @Rosabelle Pettross and @Áine Ní Donnghaile According to https://www.genealogysa.org.au/services/help/abbreviations-explained .. abbreviations are used by indexers to qualify the data recorded, and may signify that additional information is available on the original certificate. Up to two symbols may be recorded for any record. SB and FB are not part of the Given Name and should not be typed in the given name box; the researcher will see these notations on the original NYS birth index.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 6

    I'm unclear why Australian guidelines would apply to New York records.

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  • maryellenstevensbarnes1
    maryellenstevensbarnes1 ✭✭✭
    April 6

    @Áine Ní Donnghaile Sorry, I'm just a lowly Family Search Indexer/Reviewer/user -- genealogy is world-wide and so is indexing - I also checked with Ancestry - and Roots Tech ---they all said the same thing - to genealogists world-wide FB is a reference to Family Bible where you might find more information.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 7

    Family Bible has ZERO to do with a civil birth registration.

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  • maryellenstevensbarnes1
    maryellenstevensbarnes1 ✭✭✭
    April 7 edited April 7

    Thank you, I'm sure you're right

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  • erutherford
    erutherford ✭✭✭
    April 7
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/441956#Comment_441956

    It kind of does. During the years of this index, not everyone had a birth certificate, so the next best thing was the family bible. The bible was sort of the center of the family. Births, deaths, anniversaries and weddings were often recorded in the bible. It's absolutely possible that the "birth certificate" was nothing more than a piece of paper from whomever had the bible that had the child's birth date written in it.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 7

    This is an index from the state. There is no connection to anyone's bible.

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