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GEDCOM and Non-standard Name Forms

dontiknowyou
dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
March 28, 2022 edited September 26, 2024 in Family Tree

Recently someone mentioned a new feature to put multiple names in the Vitals block. I wondered what they were talking about. Then I found an example. And...

  • It is not new. This example K41M-YM2 dates from 2017.
  • It is due to a GECOM import, maybe.
  • There is an "x" button to delete the second name but it does nothing.
  • Edits to the name appear to succeed but do not save. I get the same result on both web interface and mobile app.

So this "feature" seems to be a bug.

Screen Shot 2022-03-28 at 2.07.42 PM.png

Use the Edit button to open the Name and...

Screen Shot 2022-03-28 at 2.09.32 PM.png

Mods, please escalate to the engineering teams.

Tagged:
  • Family Tree
  • Entering Names
  • Uploading Gedcom
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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 28, 2022

    The discussion mentioning multiple names in the Vitals block is here:

    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/97165/name-field-under-vital-multiple-names

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 29, 2022 edited March 29, 2022

    I can achieve that display by choosing a language setting with a different writing system, such as Russian or Japanese. If I enter an alternate name form in the "extra" fields and save, there will be two names in the Vitals box:

    image.png

    Similarly to what you've described, if I then go and change the name's language back to a Roman-alphabet language, the alternate appears below a line labeled "Non-Standard Name Forms", and the change does not save.

    image.png

    (Note that the two screenshots are from separate attempts: the top one used Japanese, while the bottom one used Russian.)

    So as a workaround for wanting to keep the two names but needing to change something in them, you could choose, say, Russian for the name's language, enter the extra name in the Cyrillic fields, and save.

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 29, 2022

    @Julia Szent-Györgyi can you delete the second name?

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 29, 2022 edited March 29, 2022

    Yes, the second name can be deleted by clicking the X at the right. If I do that, then my change of language can be saved.

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 29, 2022

    When I began this Discussion, clicking the X did not delete the additional name. Now it does, and I am able to clean up that mess.

    In the meantime I found several other profiles in that region of the tree with additional spurious names. Some of the names were "Living". All were "GEDCOM data". Hm...

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  • Jordi Kloosterboer
    Jordi Kloosterboer ✭✭✭
    April 10, 2022

    This isn't a bug. It is to support older/other systems that FamilySearch interacted/interacts with. The names could be different names depending on how the data was formatted in the other system.

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 11, 2022

    @Jordi Kloosterboer the bug was that the extra names edit tool didn't work. That's been fixed.

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  • Jordi Kloosterboer
    Jordi Kloosterboer ✭✭✭
    April 11, 2022
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/442888#Comment_442888

    Oh I see.

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  • keric01
    keric01 ✭
    November 6, 2023

    Thank you for this. I had to click the "x" button after the Suffix field. It worked for me.

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