Set download for “Famous Relatives”
I appreciate the fact that your system created charts for famous relatives, but it is incredibly tedious to actually follow through adding the common relatives to my personal family tree.
Far beyond temple ordinance purposes, these insights help us to understand better, our human family. I teach Machine Learning and Artificial Intellegence at NJIT. The database you’ve gathered has many research opportunities.
The RootsTech conference provided me with a new look at distant relatives 7th to 11th cousins 1 to 12 times removed, about 198 of them, including 25 of 46 US Presidents, most of the senior church leaders including Joseph and Emma Smith, and many authors and entertainers.
Please make the pages downloadable into GEDCOM files. There are about 42 relatives per page in about 12 generations for a total number of records of about 8000, of which half are related to the famous person and the other half are duplicated in my tree each time.
We need to reduce the amount of work and time it takes for us to individually mine the database. Please help us use computers for their best use, to process files expeditiously.
Thanks,
Wayne G. Fox
Princeton 1st Ward NJ
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If you use one of the 3rd party tree management solutions with FamilySearch tree-syncing compatibility you can more easily build such a GEDCOM.
I hope that helps.
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Wayne
Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.
I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
Just in passing ...
I understand ...
But ...
That Said ...
I shudder, at the thought, of a GEDCOM File, being "Uploaded", in to the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
Like MANY ...
I really wish, 'FamilySearch' would just STOP allowing, the "Upload", of GEDCOM Files, into the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch' altogether.
There is just NO need, to "Upload", a GEDCOM File, into the "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', under ANY circumstance; even, if one's "Ancestral" Lines, are NOT already, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
As I always 'say', to Users/Patrons, who mention, the "Upload", of GEDCOM File, into the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch' ...
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You can; but ...
Please, DO NOT, "Upload", a GEDCOM File, into the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
Upload, the GEDCOM Files, in the "Genealogies" Part, of 'FamilySearch', that is fine; but, please NOT, into the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
Some of the reasons, that Users/Patrons (like myself), DO NOT, want the ability, to upload, a GEDCOM File, into the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch' are:
(1) It is most likely, that individuals/persons in a GEDCOM File, are ALREADY, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'; and, most Users/Patrons, DO NOT; even, take the time to 'look', to 'see', if anyone in their GEDCOM File, is already in "Family Tree", in some instances, negating the need to even upload the GEDCOM File.
(2) There has been (many) cases; where, Users/Patrons, using the "Compare" process (of the upload), have "Dismissed", a "Possible" Match, with an individual/person already, in "Family Tree"; so that, THEIR "Record", from their GEDCOM File, is loaded into "Family Tree", regardless; just so that, their "Record" appears in "Family Tree" (and, in some instances, for Members of the Church, so they can do the "Temple" Work, despite the fact, that the "Temple" Work, is ALREADY done, with the "Possible" Match, with the individual/person already, in "Family Tree").
(3) Even with the "Compare" process (of the upload), there has been (many) cases; where, Users/Patrons, have uploaded, THEIR version of an individual/person, in their GEDCOM File, on top of (ie. Over) an individual/person ALREADY, in the "Family Tree" Part, of "FamilySearch", that has been there for MANY years and is well documented and "Sources" - in many instances obliterating all of the documentation and "Sources".
(4) If an individual/person, is ALREADY, in the "Family Tree" Part, of "FamilySearch", there is NO need, to uploaded one's version of an individual/person, from one's own GEDCOM File - just take note of the the 'FamilySearch Person Identifier' (PID) of the individual/person, that is ALREADY, in "Family Tree"; and, one can go back later, to ensure what information/detail, is recorded and attached, for that individual/person. Just, DO NOT, uploaded one's version of an individual/person, in one's GEDCOM File, on top of (ie. Over) an individual/person ALREADY, in "Family Tree" - obliterating, all of the documentation and "Sources", ALREADY in place/on record.
(5) The "Hours" (sometimes "Days"; or, even, "Weekes") of work, by other Users/Patrons, that can be needed to CORRECT the DAMAGE, done by the "Upload", of a GEDCOM File, can be disheartening.
I am sorry ... 'off my soap box' ...
Enter (ie. 'Create') the individuals/persons, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', one at a time - on a one by one basis.
Many of the individuals/persons in a GEDCOM File, most probably, ALREADY exist in, the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
Only one or two generations of the "Living" individuals/persons; and, perhaps, maybe, only one or two generations of the "Deceased" individuals/persons, may be required to be entered/input, into the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch"; BEFORE, some of the "Deceased" individuals/persons, from one's Ancestral Lines, ALREADY existing, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', are discovered.
Use the "Find" facility/function/feature to Search, the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', one may be surprised to find some (if not, many) of them already there.
Many well established and documented (eg. "Sourced") individuals/person, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', have been RUINED, by the "Upload", of a GEDCOM File, into the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
I hope, that this puts things into perspective.
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Just my thoughts.
I know, that this certainly does not help/assist; ; but, I hope, that this may provide you with, some additional, insight; and, perspective.
Brett
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Wayne
Furthermore ...
Just in case, you were not aware ...
IF, you have not already utilised such; THEN, I humbly suggest that you try ...
(BYU) RelativeFinder, which is one of a number of the, Third Party Applications, that are Certified to work with Family Tree of 'FamilySearch'.
BYU = Brigham Young University, in Provo, Utah, USA (ie. the Church University).
Specifically, from the Family History Technology Laboratory, of the Computer Science Department.
Provide, one's "Ancestral" Lines, in Family Tree of 'FamilySearch', are somewhat extensive ...
Then, using (BYU) RelativeFinder, one should be able to 'see' one's "Relationship" NOT only with, "Famous People"; and, many, "Others"; but, ALSO between, (1) one's self and a "Deceased" individual/person (if, there is one of course); and/or (2) two (x2) "Deceased" individuals/person (if, there is one of course); and/or, (3) one's self and a another "Living" User/Patron (if, there is one of course).
PLUS, one can ALSO "Print" the connections/links between them.
And, it is simple, just a matter of "Signing In", with the "Credentials" of one's 'FamilySearch' Account; accepting the "Conditions"; and, the "Connection" between, "FamilySearch' and (BYU) RelativeFinder; which, then becomes a "Partner" Account, that is "Connect" to 'FamilySearch'.
(BYU) RelativeFinder digs (pun intended) a lot DEEPER in Family Tree of 'FamilySearch', than 'FamilySearch' does.
Here is direct link to (BYU) RelativeFinder:
https://www.relativefinder.org/#/main
(BYU) RelativeFinder has MANY 'Bells and Whistles', that you might find useful.
Apart from "Famous People" and "Others" ...
(BYU) RelativeFinder has some interesting options ...
There is an option to see if there is a 'Connection' between yourself and a "Deceased" individual/person in Family Tree of 'FamilySearch'.
There is an option to see if there is a 'Connection' between two (x2) "Deceased" individuals/person in Family Tree of 'FamilySearch'.
There is an option to see if there is a 'Connection' between ("Living" - Users/Patrons) Friends in Family Tree of 'FamilySearch'.
And ...
Masquerade
Explore relatives of a deceased person as if you were them by inputting their FamilySearch.org PID.
https://www.relativefinder.org/#/masquerade
Magic.
Just explore.
Enjoy.
Good Luck.
I hope. that this may also help/assist.
Brett
ps: Caveat - Please be aware, that NOT "All" Users/Patrons, may have success; but, hopefully, many will.
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