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NicholasLaBelle
NicholasLaBelle ✭
February 2, 2022 edited July 16, 2024 in Family Tree

I have been involved with a DNA study which resulted in some major changes to a distant ancestors relationships. The study was published in a Histoire Quebec, which is a paid journal. Is sourcing the Journal the best way to source the data? What is the Family search view on DNA research and it's implications on long established family trees.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 2, 2022

    I can't speak to FS's stances or policies (on DNA or anything else), but I believe it is perfectly fine to cite a paid journal. It is exactly analogous to citing a published book: most people would need to buy or borrow the book to verify the citation, but this doesn't make the citation any less valid.

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  • bathompson
    bathompson ✭✭✭
    February 2, 2022

    Hello @NicholasLaBelle,

    Here is something I found in an article from the Help Center on DNA:

     DNA testing does not replace traditional forms of family history research. Rather, it can complement a well-documented family tree.

    Please note that FamilySearch does not endorse or recommend any commercial DNA applications for genetic genealogy. Nor does our Family Tree provide specific features to post or link DNA groups based on DNA matches.

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/using-dna-in-family-history-research


    There are other articles in there as well. I searched just with "DNA".

    Best Wishes!

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 3, 2022 edited February 3, 2022

    @NicholasLaBelle

    Nicholas

    Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.

    I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...

    Just in passing ...

    Your Question: Is sourcing the Journal the best way to source the data?

    Short Answer: 'Yes', if that is what you have.

    Your Question: What is the Family search view on DNA research & it's implications on long established family trees.

    Short Answer(s): (1) Please read all of the following Articles; and, (2) That is a very good question ...

    'FamilySearch', currently, DOES NOT, have the capabilities to record DNA.

    [ We can but live in hope ... ]

    As far as I am aware, there are OTHER 'On-Line' Websites, with such capabilities.

    And ...

    Here is a "Knowledge Article" in 'FamilySearch':

    Using DNA in family history research

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/using-dna-in-family-history-research

    Where it states, among other things:

    Quote:

    ------------------

    Please note that FamilySearch does not endorse or recommend any commercial DNA applications for genetic genealogy.

    Nor does our Family Tree provide specific features to post or link DNA groups based on DNA matches.

    ------------------

    But ...

    That Said ...

    'FamilySearch' does suggest, that DNA Testing, DOES NOT replace traditional forms of Genealogical/Family History research; BUT, rather, that DNA Testing CAN complement a well-documented "Family Tree".

    And ...

    Certainly NOT forgotten ...

    'FamilySearch' provides information and recourses to help navigate DNA in Genealogical/Family History research.

    Here are just some of the resources:

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    'FamilySearch' "Blog":

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    What Is DNA?—A Molecule That Links Generations

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/what-is-dna

    Using DNA to Discover Your Deep Ancestry

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/using-dna-to-discover-your-deep-ancestry

    Overcoming Brick Walls in Your Family Tree with a Genealogy DNA Test

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/genealogy-dna-test

    How DNA Testing Can Help Your Family History

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/how-dna-testing-can-help-your-family-history

    Connecting with Your Biological Family through DNA Testing

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/how-to-find-birth-parents-through-dna

    DNA Cousin Matches Can Lead to Family History Discoveries

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/dna-match

    DNA Testing at Family Reunions

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/dna-testing-at-family-reunions

    DNA 101: Back to the Basics

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/dna-101-back-to-the-basics

    Creating a DNA Testing Plan

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/creating-a-dna-testing-plan

    Untangling the Centimorgans on Your DNA Test

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/centimorgan-chart-understanding-dna

    Resources for the DNA Enthusiast

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    Healing and Family History: The Emotional Side of DNA

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/healing-and-family-history-the-emotional-side-of-dna

    Advancing Your Genealogy Research with DNA: Part 1

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/understanding-genetic-inheritance-and-discovering-ancestral-regions-through-dna 

    And, a couple of 'Oldies' ...

    Has My Family's DNA Been Tested?

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/has-my-familys-dna-been-tested

    Can Your Genes Tell Your Family Story?

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/can-your-genes-tell-your-family-story

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    'FamilySearch' "Lessons"

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    DNA: An Introduction to Genetic Genealogy

    [ x6 Lessons ]

    ▬ 1. Introduction

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/dna-an-introduction-to-genetic-genealogy-introduction

    ▬ 2. What is DNA?

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/dna-an-introduction-to-genetic-genealogy-what-is-dna

    ▬ 3. Why is DNA Valuable?

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/dna-an-introduction-to-genetic-genealogy-why-is-dna-valuable

    ▬ 4. Types of DNA

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/dna-an-introduction-to-genetic-genealogy-types-of-dna

    ▬ 5. DNA and Genealogy

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/dna-an-introduction-to-genetic-genealogy-dna-and-genealogy

    ▬ 6. Testing Companies

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/dna-an-introduction-to-genetic-genealogy-testing-companies

    DNA: I've Tested, Now What?

    [ x6 Lessons ]

    ▬ 1. Introduction

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/dna-ive-tested-now-what-introduction

    ▬ 2. First Steps

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/dna-ive-tested-now-what-first-steps

    ▬ 3. Cousin Matches

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/dna-ive-tested-now-what-cousin-matches

    ▬ 4. Match Clusters

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/dna-ive-tested-now-what-match-clusters

    ▬ 5. DNA First Approach

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/dna-ive-tested-now-what-dna-first-approach

    ▬ 6. Research First Approach

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/dna-ive-tested-now-what-research-first-approach

    How Genealogists Use DNA

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/lessons/how-genealogists-use-dna

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    Now ...

    After ALL That ...

    Just saying ...

    NOT included ...

    But, NOT forgotten ...

    I hope, that some of this may help/assist, somewhat

    Brett

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  • Gail Swihart Watson
    Gail Swihart Watson ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 3, 2022 edited February 3, 2022

    Even though several people here have stated that DNA testing does not replace traditional forms of genealogy, that is certainly incorrect in some instances. Thomas Jefferson left no traditional genealogical trace of his liaison with Sally Hemmings, and Sally's descendants were never proved to be Thomas Jefferson descendants - until they were proved by DNA. All that existed was oral tradition. So, when @NicholasLaBelle says a DNA study has altered some previously established family trees, that DNA study is an authoritative source. What she is asking is what format to use as a source.

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 3, 2022 edited February 4, 2022

    @Gail S Watson

    Gail

    It's 'Brett'.

    Just in passing ...

    And ...

    In 'Answer', to him INITIAL 'Question', of: "... Is sourcing the Journal the best way to source the data? ..." ...

    I have, ALREADY responded, in my previous 'Comment', by suggesting: "... 'Yes', if that is what you have. ..." ...

    [ And, that was towards, the "Start" of my 'Comment' ... ]

    So ...

    That Said ...

    Question: WHAT more needs to be Said, in that respect?

    Just curious.

    Brett

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  • Gail Swihart Watson
    Gail Swihart Watson ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 3, 2022

    LOL. "That Said ... What more needs to be said"

    I like it.


    But the below is what I was referring to. The truth is, DNA can change a well documented Family Tree, even when there is no traditional forms of sources to back up the change.

    But ...

    That Said ...

    'FamilySearch' does suggest, that DNA Testing, DOES NOT replace traditional forms of Genealogical/Family History research; BUT, rather, that DNA Testing CAN complement a well-documented "Family Tree".

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  • NicholasLaBelle
    NicholasLaBelle ✭
    February 4, 2022

    Just note I am Male. I know my username is a little smooshed so it may not have been obvious. Regardless all of these answers have been helpful. I sent this question when I was struggling to not get my ancestors relationships deleted. The deletions of sourced changes has stopped. I imagine that anytime some view which is controversial is found true there will be people who will vehemently disagree. The negatives of an open platform are that there are always going to be the people who abuse the system.

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  • Gail Swihart Watson
    Gail Swihart Watson ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 4, 2022

    @NicholasLaBelle I'm so sorry! Noted! I guess there are nagatives of an open platform, but quite honestly, I love working in FamilySearch as a compliment to my trees in Ancestry. I keep my wide, greater family in order here, perhaps a little more than Ancestry. But I work both in tandem and in FamilySearch have all the ancestor family friends / acquaintances records filled with information or memories I know about them. I cannot do that in Ancestry!

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