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Allow Old, Obsolete, and/or Inappropriate Discussions to be Deleted

Lorraine Baird
Lorraine Baird ✭
January 20, 2022 edited January 18 in Suggest an Idea

Please allow experienced FamilySearch workers to be able to delete old and/or inappropriate Discussions. We are currently able to delete old Notes but not old Discussions. Some have long since been taken care of with attached sources that weren't there in 2011-2013.

In my service, I like to make everything easier for new users to see at a glance the pertinent info without having to wade through old Discussions that will only confuse them and that have long since been sourced and proven.

Thank you!

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  • Brett .
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    January 20, 2022 edited January 19

    @Lorraine Baird

    Welcome to the Community.FamilySearch Forum. As one who has been participating in this forum for a number of years, no post is obsolete regardless of how minor. Posts that are inappropriate have already been deleted. No post should be deleted, no matter how far back. Especially if there has been subsequent comments made to a post as there us often good information in some of the subsequent comments. I often reference past posts in current post and have been doing so for many years. I for one, would vehemently object if such was considered and actioned. Just my thoughts. I know that this certainly does not support your suggested enhancement, but I hope that this may provide you with some additional insight and perspective.

    Brett

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 21, 2022 edited January 21, 2022

    @Brett ., I believe Lorraine is talking about the discussions found on a profile's Collaborate tab, not Community posts.

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 21, 2022 edited January 19

    @Julia Szent-Györgyi

    Thank You. Could be, and in that case, my stance does not change. I would still say no. I would vehemently object if such was considered and actioned. Under the Collaboration tab of an individual, it is bad enough that Notes added by one User can be deleted by other Users. At least, let us have somewhere where other Users cannot delete things. If such is inappropriate, a request can be submitted to FamilySearch to remove such. There would have to be very good grounds for doing so - ie. breaching the Code of Conduct, not just because such is old. I have seen some individuals where there were a great deal of discussions, but certainly not that many and certainly not enough to warrant the need for the ability for other Users to be able delete any discussions added by another User. One only sees the discussions when one is looking under the Collaboration tab. They are not in your face. You have to go searching for them. They do not need to be culled. Just my thoughts. I know that this certainly does not support your suggested enhancement, but I hope that this may provide you with some additional insight and perspective.

    Brett

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  • Paul W
    Paul W ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 22, 2022 edited January 22, 2022

    @Lorraine Baird

    There is an "Add Comment" section under the Discussion item to which you can input your reasons for feeling the item contains information that is incorrect or no longer relevant.

    Many users choose to enter their comments as "Discussions" rather than as "Notes" items purely because they know this will protect them from unwanted edits or deletions. With everything else in Family Tree being subject to its open-edit nature, I really appreciate there being at least one place that another user cannot change an input I want to stick!

    I do understand your feelings on this issue, but there is already a way to minimise any confusion about outdated remarks - just add a comment immediately below.

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  • Leslie Edmunds
    Leslie Edmunds ✭
    January 17 edited January 19

    Users should be allowed to delete or update old Discussions under Collaborate which were brought over in 2011 by FamilySearch. These Discussions were the only way in the past for people to communicate with each other.

    The Notes section with it's new features is the way we communicate now. So, I suggest you convert the Discussion to Notes so that the Family Tree can be cleaned up and improved just as we are doing with all the other features of Family Search.

    Leslie Edmunds

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  • Leslie Edmunds
    Leslie Edmunds ✭
    January 17 edited January 19

    Well, Paul,

    I've added comments and discussions as you suggested and encourage all other users to do the same until Family Search realizes that old junk Notes and old junk Discussions are not improving the family tree and should be able to be deleted.

    To clarify, certain Notes and Discussions which I call "old junk" are bits of incomplete data which have no context and thus do not advance the quality of the information attached to the person.

    Leslie Edmunds

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  • D. Schleininger
    D. Schleininger ✭
    January 17
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/114313/allow-old-obsolete-and-or-inappropriate-discussions-to-be-deleted

    When people have been separated by law, it is inapproiate for us to try to rejoin them again against their will. Some of them would be outraged by our doing so, let it rest please.

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  • AnneLoForteWillson
    AnneLoForteWillson mod
    January 18

    @Leslie Edmunds Could you list a couple of the IDs that you cannot delete Discussions or Notes on? I know that I've deleted them in the past. I've cleaned up my tree, so I don't have any to look at. I'm curious to know if something has changed to prevent the deletions,

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 18

    @AnneForteWillson, anyone can delete a Note, but only the person who initiated a Discussion can delete it.

    As an example, I just added a Discussion to Kodály Zoltán's profile. See if it'll let you delete it. (It's about his second wife, who is still living, having been 58 years her husband's junior and coming from a long-lived family.)

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  • MaileLoveland
    MaileLoveland mod
    January 19

    Several posts in this thread were modified due to Code of Conduct violations. For more information, please see the Code of Conduct.

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