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JamesHecht
JamesHecht ✭
January 14, 2022 edited January 14, 2022 in Indexing

Can someone assist with the male first names from an Irish marriage record from 1850. The end letter of the two names is common, but I can't make out what the name would be. I have checked handwriting examples, but can't decipher the "loop" at the end of the name.

This is taken from the following batch:

Ireland, Armagh—Church Records, 1740–1913 [Part A][M3CW-TYK]

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  • John Empoliti
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    January 14, 2022 edited January 14, 2022 Answer ✓

    Hi @JamesHecht

    Please post the Batch Code - the letters and numbers inside the brackets at the end of the batch name. It looks like MXXX-XXX. By looking at the handwriting examples and other contextual clues, as you've done already, someone might be able to offer some suggestions.

    The second one could be "Berd" (d elevated) perhaps an abbreviation for Bernard. But you would index Berd. The first could be "Ew" perhaps for Edward, but you would index Ew. I see you've posted the batch code. I'll have a look, as will others. See below for justification for Berd being short for Bernard. I would go with Ew for the first one, possibly for Edward. I can't convince myself that I see Edw (a common abbreviation for Edward. But fortunately, you just need to capture what you see.

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  • John Empoliti
    John Empoliti ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 14, 2022 edited January 14, 2022 Answer ✓
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    I'm pretty sure of the Berd͟

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  • JamesHecht
    JamesHecht ✭
    January 14, 2022

    Thank you John Empoliti for your assistance. Someone else suggested the following for the first name:

    "The other appears to be Ewd - shortened Edward (doesn't appear to be Emd - Edmund)"

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  • John Empoliti
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    January 14, 2022 edited January 14, 2022

    For future reference, here are some 1800s script abbreviations (mostly) and their probable equivalents. But, again, you type what you see - the abbreviation; not the expanded name. These examples are to help you recognize abbreviations as such and be able to transcribe them more accurately. Good luck.

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  • genthusiast
    genthusiast ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 14, 2022

    @John Empoliti

    Bottom left corner may be Wnd - Winifred (note the same d character at the end)?

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  • John Empoliti
    John Empoliti ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 14, 2022

    @genthusiast . You could be right. I can't go back and check the exemplars to verify.

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  • John Empoliti
    John Empoliti ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 14, 2022

    @JamesHecht I don't see the Ewd. I possibly see Eud, but that doesn't make sense (to me).

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  • maryellenstevensbarnes1
    maryellenstevensbarnes1 ✭✭✭✭
    January 17, 2022

    Thank you @John Empoliti --what a cool chart!!!!!Thank you so much and @JamesHecht I see possibly Emd as a shortened form of Edmund but as a general rule for indexing we type what we see and do not expand abbreviations

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