How can I retrieve information about the baptism of dead relatives done by my grandmother?
My maternal grandmother Susan Murray, nee Goodfellow (KWJ4-587), who died in 1972, was a Mormon, and had researched her family tree in Scotland. This information was lost when she died. I thought that I would be able to trace the information that she had discovered via the Mormon web site. I would be most grateful if you could help me with this. She was a member of the Mormon church in Birkenhead, Merseyside, UK, but they have no record concerning her. She had baptized her relatives and I wish to access the information that she had gathered when she did this. I did the My Heritage DNA test & have consulted Family Search but have failed to retrieve the information that my grandmother had found, and that I once saw. Her mother seems to have been Irish, Susan White Goodfellow, no KZJP-C5F, but I’ve found no further information.
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If you look at her ID in the Family Tree, you will see that another user is currently working on this family. You can contact that user and find out what information they may know. In the Sources on your grandmother's page are Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint census records - showing she was a member at that time.
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Another user has merged two records for Susan Goodfellow, and the new ID number is GZVM-BQW. It looks like there may be a duplicate for both her father and her mother the need to be merged. You may find more information about their family by looking at the sources attached, and Amy suggested.
I am familiar with trying to find information about Irish ancestors. It is a struggle, as so many records have been lost. You might want to join the › IRELAND GENEALOGY RESEARCH, group here in Community, and ask for suggestions. You have to join the group to be able to ask questions.
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Thank you Amy, but I think the user you refer to is me, via Genopro.
Thanks Sanra, I'll join the Irish group, but it's Scottish data that was lost when my grandmother died.
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Vanessa,
There is also a Scotland Genealogy Research group.
Wishing you luck.
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I have a question for the church administrators. Do members of the church (as my grandmother was) pay a fee to baptise their ascendants and aren’t records kept so as to avoid baptising someone more than once? I saw the information that my grandmother obtained via the church, but it later disappeared. It concerned her ascendants in Scotland & I’ve been trying to retrieve this information for some years now. As my grandmother obtained her genealogical information via the church I can’t understand why it doesn’t appear via the Family Search website.
Sanra gave me the new number GZVM-BQW, for what I had as KWJ4-587, but I also found my grandmother with number GMVK-F92 on the Family Search website.
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Hi Vanessa
You asked if there is a fee to baptize ancestors, the answer is no. Records are kept to try to prevent duplication, but until the recent updates in technology around the world, people were unable to know if the ordinances were completed by someone else, and wanted to be sure they were completed.
Good job finding another record for your grandmother which may give you additional information. You may wish to merge the two records for Susan GMVK-F92, and GZVM-BQW, using the ID numbers, as well as merging the two records for Duncan Campbell Murray, GMVK-HPB and MMKC-NQZ. Follow the directions below:
In Family Tree, the Possible Duplicates feature may not list all of a person’s duplicate records. If you know the ID number of a duplicate that is not listed, you can use it to merge the records.
Before you start
Obtain the ID number of the record to be merged.
Steps (website)
- In Family Tree, display the person page of one of the duplicate records.
- If the Details section is not displayed, click Details.
- Click Merge by ID. It is located in the Tools section, along the right side of the page.
- Enter the ID number with capital letters and the hyphen.
- Click Continue. The merge screen opens in a new browser tab.
- Left side: This is the possible duplicate. It is deleted if you merge the records.
- Right side: This is the record you started from. It is saved if you merge the records.
- Decide if the records are about the same person.
- Compare the left and right sides for matching names, dates, places, and family members.
- Read any warning messages on the screen.
- If the record on the left is the most accurate, click Switch to keep it instead.
- If the records are not about the same person, click Not a Match. If the records are about the same person, click Yes Continue. If you are not sure, click Cancel.
- On the surviving record, review all information that has a green background. Highlighted information will be copied to the surviving record when you complete the merge. If this information should not be saved on the surviving record, click Undo.
- Click Continue.
- Finish the merge:
- Review the surviving record.
- If everything looks as it should, click Finish Merge.
- To explain why you merged these records, either select a suggested reason statement or enter one of your own.
- Click Save.
Immediately after the merge and for a short time, an “undo” option is available. It lets you easily unmerge the two records.
Recommended next steps
- Remove incorrect sources or memories from the surviving record.
- Review the person’s family members to see if they also have possible duplicates.
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Combining their records may give you additional sources and information.
Be sure to check out the Record Hints found on the Details page for Susan, KGZC-3K7, and Susan White, GZV9-3F9, (they may be the same person), as well as John Goodfellow, GZV9-QNR. Click below to learn more.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/what-are-record-hints-in-family-tree
Good luck.
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