wrong parents
I am having a lot of trouble with my family tree the wrong parents are added and I am unable to fix it as someone else has done it for example Mary Ann Josephine Ryan K4JL-FCL in the list her parents James Ryan MPD8-6ZZ & Mary MPD8-6ZP are not her parents. The reason I know this as MaryAnn Ryan is my Great Grandmother this is not the only time I have had trouble with my tree yesterday I was adding children of my Great Grandfather and they were in another tree with a different mother so I ignore joining them to the other tree as I was caught out once before and messed the tree. Do I just add the correct parents to the list.
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Dianna
That is all well and good ...
But, it makes NO difference ...
That Said ...
Mary RYAN ( K4JL-FCL ), is NOT Mary Ann Josephine RYAN (or, even, Mary Ann Johannah RYAN).
You are ADDING to, an already existing "Mess"/"Nightmare" ...
You NEED to CORRECT everything ...
Otherwise, the "Pedigree", will be a MIX, of DIFFERENT individuals/persons ...
And, ultimately, NOT correct ...
Sorry ...
Brett
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'G'Day', Dianna
Its 'Brett'
Just in passing ...
You appear to be correct, about the Parents. of MaryAnn Josephine RYAN ( K4JL-FCL ).
[ Where, her ORIGINAL "Name" was simply, Mary RYAN ... ].
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/changelog/K4JL-FCL/preferred-name
As, her Parents, appear to be, a "John"; and, a "Catherine".
Now ...
That Said ...
In "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' ...
The ORIGINAL Parents, for the ORIGINAL Mary RYAN ( K4JL-FCL ); where:
Father: James RYAN ( MPD8-6ZZ )
Mother: Mary ( MPD8-6ZP )
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/changelog/K4JL-FCL
Just thinking out aloud here ...
Perhaps ...
Mary RYAN; and, Mary Ann Josephine RYAN, were TWO (x2), sperate; and, distinct, individuals/persons, that have, unfortunately, inadvertently, been "Mixed" together (as some like to say, "Conflated" ... ), into one.
It happens; and, often.
The WHOLE matter, needs a LOT of investigation.
Perhaps, is was just a matter of the WRONG Parents being added to, Mary RYAN (later: MaryAnn Josephine RYAN) ( K4JL-FCL ), back in the days of "New.FamilySearch", the predecessor of "Family Tree".
As, there REALLY was, a Mary J. RYAN, whose "Birth", was "Registered," in 1863, in Goulburn (NSW, Australia).
WITH, the Parents, of, James; and, Mary ...
'Yes', a LOT more work (ie. Research) is required ...
Just my thoughts.
I hope, that this may help/assist, somewhat.
Brett
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Brett I understand what you were saying but James is in my tree where it should be John and I cannot change it as someone else had put James as her father how do I have it changed to John as her father and Catherine Carey as her mother. I am still trying to learn how to add sources to the tree you have told me but I am still trying to do it, I just don't know how to change names when they are wrong thank you Dianna
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Dianna
FIRSTLY ...
I really think, that Mary RYAN ( K4JL-FCL ), is NOT Mary Ann Josephine RYAN.
As, I DO NOT believe, that they are, one and the same person ...
And, I DO NOT think that Mary RYAN ( K4JL-FCL ) is the person you seek.
I suggest the following:
SECONDLY ...
(1) Restore Mary RYAN ( K4JL-FCL ); as, just Mary RYAN (or, maybe, Mary J. RYAN)
.... [ With the existing Parents of, James; and, Mary ... ]
(2) Restore Mary RYAN ( K4JL-FCL ); with, the "Birth" of 1863, Goulburn, New South Wales, Australia
(3) Restore Mary RYAN ( K4JL-FCL ); with, the "Death" record, of simply "Deceased".
.... [ "Delete" that record, of 20 Dec 1927, Goulburn, New South Wales, Australia ... ]
(4) Restore the Parents to their ORIGINAL Names (and, "Details")
.... ie. BACK to
......... James RYAN, Born, <1837>, New South Wales, Australia; and,
......... Mary, Born, <1841>, New South Wales, Australia
Now ...
It get complicated ...
(4) "Remove" the Spouse / Husband, of Henry FRANCIS ( K8W9-SND ); and,
.... the Marriage (ie. Event) of, 1894, Goulburn, New South Wales, Australia, from Mary RYAN ( K4JL-FCL ).
.... [ ie. "Delete"/"Remove" that "Couple" Relationship ... ]
(5) "Remove" the associated Children, from Mary RYAN ( K4JL-FCL ); as, their Mother.
.... [ ie. "Delete"/"Remove" that "Parent-Child" Relationships ... ]
FINALLY ...
Now ...
After all that ...
IF, the individual/person, Mary Ann Josephine RYAN, Born, 1875, Goulburn, New South Wales, Australia, to the Parents of, John RYAN; and, Catherine CAREY, DOES NOT already exist, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'; THEN, "Create" her.
Plus ...
You may NEED to either, (1) "Find" (if they ALREADY exist); or, (2) "Create" (if the DO NOT exist), the Parents of, John RYAN; and, Catherine CAREY.
THEN, add either, the already existing; or, NEWLY "Created", Mary Ann Josephine RYAN, whichever; as, the Spouse / Husband, of Henry FRANCIS ( K8W9-SND ); and, those associated Children.
OTHER WISE ...
You are creating a TANGLED WEB ...
You are completely "Changing" the Parents of, I suspect, a CORRECT individual/person; but, NOT who you are seeking.
You are making, what appears to be, INCORRECT "Changes", to ALREADY incorrect work ...
ie.
The "Change" of "Name", from Mary RYAN, to Mary Ann Josephine RYAN, looks to be INCORRECT; and, that is where things, went astray ...
I am just glad that such is NOT my "Ancestral" Lines ...
A real "Mess"/"Nightmare" is being "Created", that eventually, another, poor; and, unfortunate, User/Patron, WILL have to (come along; and,) CORRECT.
Just my thoughts.
I know, that this will not be what you want; but, I hope that this gives you some, insight; and, perspective.
Brett
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My mistake her name is Mary Ann Johannah Ryan if you look at her birth certificate it has Mary A J also
her death certificate has the same Mary A J 22685/1927 it was her parents that was wrong in my tree.
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