Help with Surname

DenisWallner

I can't figure out the lastname of the second to last entry, the one named Ellen. What do you think it means? I see Beeconhill or something like that but it doesn't exist.

Thanks for the help.

Mirevo

It may be Buconull?

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genthusiast

Opinions: Ellen Becconsell

Entry 1 Surname: Caunse

Entry 5 Surname: Caunse

Note how some 's' extend up in that same manner?

When you say it doesn't exist - what do you mean?

Paul W

Just found this:

"Recorded in many forms including the popular Beckinsale, Beckinsall, Beckensall, Beaconsall, Becconsall, and Beckensale, this is an English surname. It is locational from a village now known as Hesketh with Becconsall, near the town of Southport in Lancashire."

See: https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Beckinsale#ixzz7EjxJErlV

DenisWallner

Thank you both. I think you were right and it might actually be Becconsell, as I found a similar one that is "Becconsall".

What I meant with "exist" is that I searched some Surnames that I think were correct but couldn't find anything. But with Becconsell/sall I found some matches so that must be. Thanks again to both of you!

genthusiast

@Paul W

How does one get a new variant - i.e. Becconsell - added?

This record seems to be an example of the name with e not a - therefore shouldn't it be representative of that spelling variant? I know that spelling variants were not as 'important' - scribes spelled things they way they thought/interpreted.

DenisWallner

@genthusiast

You can probably send them a message, since that site is not open to edit from the public. That site is a great resource and I'll start using it.

I also use https://forebears.io/ to check some common surnames. And of course FamilySearch itself.

dontiknowyou

The About Us page for Surname DB explains that it is now basically a legacy site. Currently the best way to document surname variants is to publish in a genealogy journal. One good journal for this is the Journal of One Name Studies aka JOONS, published by the Guild of One Name Studies aka GOONS. GOONS also has surname research project pages where proven variants are given.

There are surname dictionaries; quality varies but they do try to refer to published research, ie journals.

dontiknowyou

forebears.io uses phonetic matching on surname databases, just as FamilySearch does; it has no information about surname variants ie spelling changes in pedigrees.

You can extrapolate the FamilySearch phonetic matching for a given surname by doing a Search without the Exact Match option and scraping the results for variants and deviants. Deviants are transient spelling variations due to phonetic spelling and transcription errors.