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Leonard Allen Emang
Leonard Allen Emang ✭
December 8, 2021 edited July 16, 2024 in Family Tree

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  • Gordon Collett
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    December 9, 2021

    What type of correction? In what part of FamilySearch?

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  • Leonard Allen Emang
    Leonard Allen Emang ✭
    December 15, 2021


    Eric Hansen (LH1F-1QP) was born about 1730 in Sunndal, Møre og Romsdal, Norway to Hans Fredriksen Musgjerd (LH1F--BTR) and Mrs Hans Fredriksen Musgjerd (LH6J-7K3). He has been combined with a person christened on 12 May 1737 in Fet, Akershus, Norway to different parents. There is no longer a discussion place on the individual record heading and no place that I can find to to send a e-mail to family search in the new fancy programs, like I used to be able to do. The new show all is also changed and I was unable to find where the entries were combined.

    Allen

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  • Paul W
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    December 15, 2021 edited December 15, 2021

    @Leonard Allen Emang

    You can no longer email FamilySearch. You either report problems here (which you have) or by phone (facility only available in certain countries).

    There are Discussions and Notes sections under the "Collaboration" section (reached via the link at the top of the Person page).

    Although members of this Community might be willing to help you, it is generally down to the person finding the error to correct it. In your case, undoing the merge. Details of this and all other changes (made by yourself and other users) are found under "Show All" on the right side of the Person page. I can't see from there where he has been merged with another person, but certainly the 1737 christening source appears to have been added in error.

    Also, you need to remove the 1738 death and burial inputs if this Erik definitely married in 1759 or 1760 (if the latter, references to 1759 events need to be deleted from the couple relationship section, too).

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  • Gordon Collett
    Gordon Collett ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 16, 2021

    @Leonard Allen Emang

    Going through the change log, there are no merges for Erik in Family Tree.

    This means his record was thoroughly messed up in New Family Search, Family Tree's most recent predecessor, and imported in this state. His alternate names list shows the potential extent of problems:

    • Erik Hansen Musgjerd
    • Erik Hansen Gravem
    • Kristoffer Hanssen Musgjerd
    • Kristoffer Hansen
    • Kristoffer Hansen Olssen
    • Hans Hansen
    • Hansen
    • Knud Hansen Fiellestad
    • Knud Hansson
    • Knud Nielsen Halse

    So this record contains information for between 5 and 10 different individuals. These kinds of dreadful combinations were fairly easy to do in New Family Search.

    No one at FamilySearch is going to fix this for you. These types of repairs are left up to users of Family Tree.

    You have several options:

    • Play like you never saw this and never come back.
    • Decide who you want this to be and just turn the record into that name, ripping out all information that does not pertain to him and not caring that the information on all those other men will be lost. I would view this as the worst option.
    • Carefully untangle the different individuals, restoring all of them to their correct state. Having access to appropriate Bygdeboker would be very useful since that is probably where all the basic information originally came from. It's good you can access the one from Sunndal. You will need to decide who this record should be and create new records for the other four to nine people.

    You do, fortunately, if you have access to it, an excellent resource to start with. There are three different child to parent sealing for "Erik et. al.," in 1938, 1941, and 1950. Also, there are two sealing to spouse, in 1936 and 1950. A couple of these are in the range covered by the record collection: Family Group Records Collection, Archives Section, 1942-1969 at https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/2060211 Finding him in those records could give you the original structure for at least a couple of these families, at least the structure researchers back then put together which would be their original structure in New Family Search.

    This can be a very fun and engaging intellectual and research challenge for those who like this sort of thing.

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  • Gordon Collett
    Gordon Collett ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 16, 2021 edited December 16, 2021

    This sheet: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9QY-P9S9?i=534&wc=WWJR-J87%3A352086901%2C353549902&cc=2060211

    shows the family of Hans Gulbrandsen:

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    I would rate this as quite reliable since it was completed by a Norwegian living in Bergen who did this research in the state archives in Oslo.

    It accounts for the christening date on "Erik et. al." and some of the alternate names of both Kristoffer and Knud. The sealing date for all the children on this record are the same as the one for "Erik et.al." to Hans and Gudbjørg.

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    Another portion of this mix is found in the Sunndal's bygebok under Gravem. (Image 476 in the Sunndal Bygdebok) It will let you pull out the Erik Hansen and wife Marit and their three children. They were both alive in the 1801 census. (See: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01058429000462) Both of them died in 1803 apparently so should be able to find records for those deaths.

    The bygdebok says he was probably the son of Hans Fredriksen Fale who it looks like is the Hans Fredriksen who was born at Musgjerd then lived several places before ending up at Musgjerd again.

    The 1801 census says this Erik Hansen was only married once. so the "Erik Hansen et. al." marriage to Marte Pedersen represents even another family.

    Hope this gives you a few starting points for untangling this family.

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  • Gordon Collett
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    December 16, 2021

    As part of all this correction, be sure not to delete or remove any information, like that 1738 death date until you have a correct person to move it to so that the information will not get lost.

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  • Gordon Collett
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    December 23, 2021

    With great help from Support, I was able to identify and separate out the nine men who were combined into Erik Hansen in New Family Search. This separated out his incorrect information, parents, spouse, and children. I also did a lot of basic clean up such as getting rid of duplicate alternate names, combining duplicates, and putting on a bunch of sources. You will find his record in much better shape now.

    As stated previously, this is not the kind of thing support does aside from some data fixes only they can do. They leave it to us to study sources, evaluate data, and then make needed corrections in Family Tree.

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