UK, England, Northumberland—Nonconformist Church Records, 1613–1920 [Part B] [MSPF-K4P
Hello
Can anyone help me decipher the entry squeezed in-between the last two entries on this page?
??? 25 Feb 1922 matr ???? Amelia Williams ??eccl Joseph??Gateshead
Thank you
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Your link or image has gone AWOL, and I have been unsuccessful in tracking down what you're talking about based on your post.
(MSPF-K4P corresponds in FamilyTree to a woman in Switzerland.)
In any case, I think you'll need to include an image, because the images of Northumberland Noncomformist records are restricted.
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Thank you Julia is this any better?
https://www.familysearch.org/indexing/batch/4eba9609-64bd-4830-873e-5dafda5c9aaa
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Looking for clues, I turned to the FreeBMD website and found this record appears to refer to the Alice Amelia Williams whose birth was registered at Gateshead in 1898. Her 1922 marriage also appears to have been registered there, but to a John Stephenson. The Latin appears to refer to a marriage, but I cannot read what is recorded between "Williams" and "Gateshead" - there mention of a "Joseph", but I believe this reference is to St Joseph's Catholic church in Gateshead.
Hopefully, others might be able to offer further suggestions. Strange how a 1922 event (apparently incomplete in detail) has been squeezed into this space, although there is a "Stephenson" baptism directly below.
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Thank you for your help
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Ipse die 25 Febr 1922, matr. contr. cum Alitia Aemilia Williams in Eccl. Sti. Joseph apud Gateshead.
Which is Latin for "this person married Alitia Aemilia Williams on 25 Feb 1922 in the church of St. Joseph at Gateshead", where "this person" refers to John Stephenson in the entry below. (You can see that the line above the addendum is the same thickness/boldness as the lines between the rest of the entries, and the space between that line and the pre-printed "Die" is the same on all entries, meaning that the extra text was added at the top of the last entry rather than at the bottom of the second-from-last entry.)
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BTW - as reported with regard to other batches, this one - if all records are for Gateshead - is being indexed under the wrong collection title. Gateshead is in the county of Durham, not Northumberland.
There have also been instances of batches containing just the records of the established (Anglican) churches of Durham being placed under this heading. Once online, researchers could easily be missing their ancestors' records - as they will be using "Durham" for the place of the event (baptism, marriage or burial), when the county has been wrongly indexed as Northumberland.
Administrators of many indexing projects are really making life difficult for researchers by continuing to allow material to be indexed under incorrect headings - whether that relates to type of event or the place in which it took place. Anyone can make a mistake, but FamilySearch employees refusing to address these reported issues is difficult to understand.
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Julia Szent-Györgyi is correct on translating this extra event in the life of the main person of this entry.
By the way the name of the person is Joannes Stephenson if I am not wrong.
The project Instructions of this batch indicates the following:
- If a record lists more that 1 event, such as a baptism and a marriage, create separate entries for each event.
Thank you for helping to index this records.
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Yes, looking back at the entry I'm disappointed with myself that I did not read to name as Joannes (i.e. John) Stephenson, as both Julia and Mirevo have commented. It has taken me all this time for the relevance of the 1922 marriage reference (squeezed in directly above) to sink in! I saw the "Stephenson" link but, to be honest, I just did not read the name as "Joannes" at all - though I had quickly realised "Alitia" (shouldn't that have been written as "Alicia" in Latin?) would be found as "Alice" (Amelia Williams) in civil registration records of 1895 and 1922.
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Thank you all, hopefully my indexing of this will be correct.
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