Source Linker automatically linking a source to Couple Relationship - is this new?
Today I discovered for the first time (for me) that when I use source linker to source a couple's marriage or a census where the husband and wife are listed that the system automatically linked these new sources in the Couple Relationship under Relationship Sources.
In the past the only way to get sources into this location was to create the source from the Relationship Sources location or save a source to the source box and then go to Relationship Sources and add from Source Box.
When did this new, automatic attaching of sources to the marriage begin? One person I texted with said this has gone on for years and I don't believe that. I think this is new - it is new to me. The only Help Center article I can find on this is How do I add a source to a couple relationship in Family Tree? Article Id: 1202 April 20, 2020 It makes no reference to an automated system just the old way of attaching sources as I described above.
Can anyone help with this?
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Robert
It's 'Brett'
Just in passing ...
As an aside ...
Most Users/Patrons, DO NOT even realise, that such, has been done, in their ("Contact") "Name".
It is NOT just, the "Couple" Relationships, that those "Sources", are somewhat AUTOMATICALLY "Added".
It is ALSO, the "Parent-Child" Relationships, where such "Sources" are somewhat AUTOMATICALLY "Added".
The funny thing is, that it DOES NOT seem to be, "All" the 'Time', with all relevant "Sources" - just, sometimes it does; and, sometimes it does not.
I have not yet worked out, WHY, there is such a "Difference".
The problem/issue is, that SOMETIMES, the somewhat AUTOMATIC attribution, of the "Source", to either, a "Couple"; and/or, a "Parent-Child", Relationship, is NOT appropriate - and, I have had, to "Detach"/"Delete" such, on quite a number occasions.
My reason for the the "Detachment"/"Deletion" of such "Sources", is generally:
INCORRECTLY attached AUTOMATICALLY and ARBITRARILY, on its own accord/volition, through the "Source Linker", by the "System", in the User's/Patron's 'Name' - when, in fact, it was, NOT "Actually" DONE; nor, DESIRED, by the User/Patron.
As you can 'see', for that "Reason" ...
What I find both, concerning; and, disturbing, about the whole matter, of the "Sources"; being, somewhat AUTOMATICALLY added, to either, a "Couple"; and/or, a "Parent-Child", Relationship, is that, such is being DONE, in my "Contact Name"; even, though, I DID NOT do/attempt/intend/desire do such; and, what is so bad about such, is that, MOST Users/Patrons, are NOT even AWARE, that such has been DONE, in their "Contact Name".
I can only really remember noticing, the the somewhat AUTOMATIC attribution, of the "Source", to either, a "Couple"; and/or, a "Parent-Child", Relationship either, last year; or, the Year before that.
Whereas, it could have been occurring for some time.
And, the ONLY real reason, that I even noticed such, was when I went to "Attach", the applicable "Sources", for a "Marriage" a Couple, to their "Couple" Relationship, from my "Source Box", after I had just "Attached" the "Sources", individually, to the individuals/person concerned. All of a sudden, I find that there were ALREADY various "Sources" attached to the "Relationship" in my "Contact Name", that I know I DID NOT, do/attempt/intent/desire. It was certainly a 'shock to the system', to say the least.
Certainly, something, that 'snuck in', 'under the radar', that MOST Users/Patrons are NOT even aware.
[ Certainly, NOT common knowledge ... ]
Once I became aware, of what was happening, I was more astute at "Checking" for such; and, "Detaching"/"Deleting", that which was NOT appropriate.
Just my thoughts.
Brett
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I commented on your Facebook thread. It is not new, it has been going on for many years. Here is the oldest example I've been able to find today from my husband's family.
Here is one that came over from Source Linker in January 2016. It populated the individuals and the marriage source. KWZD-1L9 - this source: Joseph Godderidge, Utah, County Marriages, 1871-1941
What I'm wondering is if more sources are now behaving this way than before and that is why you are now seeing it.
I remember a conversation I had with Ron Tanner and others about this feature a few years ago. I've been searching my saved email to try to find it and I haven't been able to locate it so far tonight.
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Robert,
Check out this thread that came over from the GetSatisfaction software where the discussion began in 2013 through 2016. https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/46897/easier-way-to-add-sources-to-relationships
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@Brett . Thank you - I have exactly the same feeling about this. I haven't seen any incorrect attributions but it sure is an iffy process in that sometimes it does this and other times it doesn't. I must not have been trying very hard to keep track of marriage sources since I have never run across this before. Honestly, I fall into the group that was unhappy having to work sources twice to get them into the couple relationship and often just leave the source with the individuals. I guess I should go back and do some digging around and see what is actually attached to some of my ancestors. Thank you for your insights.
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Robert
Many years ago, like many, I did not "Attach" the "Sources", for "Marriage", to the "Couple" Relationships.
But, over the last few Years, I trying to do so diligently; and, 'Yes', such can be somewhat time consuming, to do it properly.
Unfortunately, what I have noticed, with that somewhat AUTOMATIC attribution, of the "Source", to a "Couple" Relationship, is that it ONLY attaches ONE of the "Sources"; and, not BOTH (ie. one for Husband/Groom; and, one for Wife/Bride).
In those cases, that is just one (of many) of those inappropriate AUTOMATIC attributions, to which I refer.
More often than not, I have to "Detach"/"Delete" such; and, then, attached ALL the relevant "Sources", to the "Couple" Relationship, from my "Source Box" (which, in now HUGE).
At least, NOW, with the recent Upgrade, the other day, to the "Source Box", I will be able to go back; and, "Attach", the many "Sources", that I did not attach, years ago, to "Couple" Relationships.
Prior, to that "Upgrade" the other day, it was a nigh impossible task, to go through, all my One and Three-Quarter Thousand pages/screens, in my "Source Box", to find particular EARLIER "Sources", that had not been attached to "Couple" Relationships.
Another, "Long Term" Project, now the "Source Box", FINALLY, has SOME useful TOOLS.
Regardless ...
That the somewhat AUTOMATIC attribution, of the "Source", to either, a "Couple"; and/or, a "Parent-Child", Relationships, certainly NEEDS to be addressed/fixed; as, it has MANY 'latent' Faults/Flaws.
I am not sure, who the relevant "Product Manager" is, in 'FamilySearch', these days ...
I think, that is used to be, 'Robert KEHRER'.
As an aside ...
I will "Mention" him, is this post, of yours, to 'see', if he can shed any light on the matter.
[ Or, who the matter should be addressed to ... ]
We can but live in hope.
Brett
Attention: @Robert Kehrer ... Senior Product Manager ... (FYI)
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