Why doesn't data incorporate into my line when pulled up from Search Genealogies?
The following is supposedly taken from my input data but I can't incorporate it into the current genealogy, ie, the temple data. I did a search on the 33C6-YJ2 and it came up empty.
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Roger
Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.
I am just another 'lowly' User?Patron ...
[ And, I happen to be a Member of the Church ... ]
FYI
There are quite a number of versions of Henry HOWARDs ( 1762, Rowan, North Carolina, United States - Deceased ) in the "Genealogies" Database, in 'FamilySearch:
That version, that you reference is ONE of MANY ...
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:33C6-YJ2
As an aside ...
That "Reference Number" of 34YZ-V9C, for the one that you reference, may be either,
▬ an OLD 'FamilySearch Person Identifier' for an individual/person who has been "Deleted" (ie. "Archived")
OR ...
▬ a former "Ancestral File Number" (AFN), rather than a 'FamilySearch Person Identifier''
Thus ...
Please be aware, that the "Temple" Work is NOT 'Pulled Across" from the data in the "Genealogies" Database.
As such ...
I humbly suggest, that ...
You will need to submit a "Request", for 'FamilySearch' "Support", to investigate that "Temple" Work for the Henry HOWARD ( 1762, Rowan, North Carolina, United States - Deceased ) in the "Genealogies" Database; being, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:33C6-YJ2; and, ...
IF, that "Matches" the Henry HOWARD ( 1762, Rowan, North Carolina, United States - Deceased ) ... [ GD98-S36 ], that you "Created", earlier Today, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'; THEN, possibly, 'FamilySearch' can "Move" that "Temple" Work to your Henry HOWARD [ GD98-S36 ], provided "Another" DOES NOT already exist.
Just my thoughts.
I know hat this may not help/assist; but, I hope that this gives you some more, insight; and, perspective; plus, another avenue to purse.
Brett
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Studiously ignoring all the references to "temple" (I'm not LDS), it appears to me that you've conflated two different parts of the FamilySearch site: Genealogies and Family Tree.
Genealogies (also called "Pedigree Resource File") is essentially a "cloud backup" of people's genealogy files. It is searchable and viewable, but completely static: it is not editable, and the data in it doesn't "do" anything besides sit there for people to look at.
Family Tree is an open-edit, communal tree, with the lofty and distant goal of having one and only one profile for every person who ever lived. Due to its communal nature, it is not well-suited to mass uploads of data: a large part of any such upload would likely already be in the tree (often more than once). Therefore, it is better (and usually faster, in the long run) to work in the Tree one profile at a time. You can consult your (or someone else's) upload in Genealogies for new data, and add it only if it really is new.
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I thought -perhaps in error - that Pedigree Resource File (PRF) was supposed to transfer temple ordinance data to new.familysearch.org (nFS) - which subsequently was supposed to transfer them to persons in FamilySearch.org (FS). The following image links to the PRF wiki article - it mentions nothing about temple ordinances but does indicate the transfer (nFS ->FS).
Reviewing the following wiki article seems to imply what I thought I recalled - but again fails to supply any specifics that ordinances from PRF were supposed to transfer. https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Temple_Records_of_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints
To me - that ordinance data is not showing I think 'should' mean that something has gotten mixed up - or as mentioned by @Brett . above - perhaps it never did transfer to new.familysearch and subsequently to FamilySearch.org. Obviously the current person created and reserved ordinances should not 'duplicate' the already performed work - but as Brett mentions if you submit this to the temple ordinance group - they can investigate and transfer the already completed ordinances or possibly refer you to the duplicate in Tree that has them attached.
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Ordinance data never transferred from PRF as these were personal submissions by users and Ordinance data has always been protected and comes only from official records that are independent of personal submissions. The only public data that is directly associated with ordinance data is the International Genealogical Index. However, you cannot see what ordinances are associated with an given IGI entry under the current system. What you can be assured is that for every IGI entry there is some associated ordinance/ordinances. One can also use ID numbers from the IGI to determine where those records reside in Family Tree. This can be useful in locating incorrect combines/merges which can account for missing ordinances.
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Thank you for the clarification. As this is a common question - would you mind officially updating the referenced wiki documents to reflect this? I believe it would be helpful and explanatory for users of PRF (IF documentation is consulted).
By the way are you able to find what has happened to the above Henry Howard? Did he get incorrectly merged? Are the ordinances - referenced in PRF Notes and apparently from IGI then I guess - still attached?
I think this means you should find Henry Howard's IGI ordinance references and then try tracking him down in Family Tree through those references - he may have been merged incorrectly...
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I believe the ordinances indicate from above are contained in the record Henry Howard 2 October 1763 – 17 March 1798 • L82P-CNL - This may be a record with several Henry Howards in the same record. Looking at the change log there seem to be several different opinions. IGI records for Henry Howard 1752 indicate that they are in this record. Knowing nothing about the family or relationships, I cannot make any judgement as to whether this is correct or multiple persons.
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