Split into two?!
Hello Community
I have fallen into a remote family branch which I haven't been into for a while. I have just found that a historic merge from perhaps 2019 has merge 2 Joseph Murgatroyds - mine born and bred in Yorkshire and the other based in London.
Their two families are completely separate, with a batch of overlapping children / wives too.
There were so many merges done that I cannot even see where to begin. Does anyone have suggestions as to how I can split them back into the 2 separate branches and send the unwanted one back to London?
KG3Z-LCF
Thanks
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Hello @PhilippaGill
Thank you for using the Community for this concern. For this type of situation we suggest that you call us at 866-406-1830 and select the Family Tree option number 2. This will give you an experienced tree agent that will help you to sort out this family.
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Thanks Dlog...but I'm based in the UK so wonder if there is a number closer to home I can use?
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Thank you for your inquiry about how to find help with your complicated merge closer to home.
You are always welcome to call us, the call is free. But if you prefer, please use the following link to find a Family History Center with expertly trained staff closer to your home.
All the best to you in your work!
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I am not sure but I don't think the 866 number works from UK?
If not I am seeing the following public support option for UK:
But I don't think that will answer your question any better than here in Community?
Multiple merges do make things difficult. You have to trace backward all the merges in Latest Changes and make notes about which need to be separated and in which order. I do not envy the task for many merges.
There are possibly some helpful videos:
I hope this helps a little.
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I just had a quick look at Joseph KC3Z-LCF. The first thing you will need to do is go to 9X9H-TPQ - the individual, born 1805, who disappeared in the merging process in 2019 - and "Restore" him. But, you are right: getting these profiles sorted out correctly will not be too straightforward and (from similar experience) I believe this will be quite time-consuming.
There is probably a third Joseph Murgatroyd involved here, as children were baptised to a Joseph and Sarah well before the 1825 London marriage. The children born prior to 1825 will probably have to be detached from Joseph and Sarah (Carter). Also, it seems doubtful Joseph and Martha went 17 years without having a further child - Joseph, in 1836 - when Martha would have been around 52 years old.
Unfortunately, your example illustrates the problem of leaving branches alone for an extended period. I keep individuals with a close relationship to me (and many others, Too) on my "Following" list, which I check every day, for other users' changes.
Sadly, I am too busy to volunteer help at present, so hope someone else will be able to assist you in sorting out the incorrect merge and wrongly added relationships found here.
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Also, it seems doubtful Joseph and Martha went 17 years without having a further child - Joseph, in 1836 - when Martha would have been around 52 years old.
I believe that this is quite possible from a biological point of view, and does in fact happen.
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I do a lot of jobs like this. If there have been many changes I do not attempt to undo them. I just make corrections to what I see now.
Normally I would use the two wives as anchors, going through all their attached records first, detaching records that don't belong, and making a list of their children. Clean up the wives' Details too: standardize dates and place names, and remove residences and other data that do not belong to that woman. Then do the children the same way. If I suspected more than 2 families conflated, I would probably start with the children, then do the wives. Leave the conflated husband for last; by the time the rest are sorted you'll have a good idea how to split the husband.
Look at the wife Sarah Carter. On the web interface in the Sources tab turn on the Timeline map and see how the records attached to her now are in 3 different places.
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@PhilippaGill, how are you getting on with this makeover?
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