Minnesota obituary cards. continuing from one card to another
I am reviewing Minnesota obituary cards. Some of these cards are continuation cards from the previous batches. Should these all be included in one record and have one card marked as un extractable Example Obituaries 1855-1990 M381-TRB
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Please provide the URL link to the batch or post the share batch code with your question.
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Thanks for sharing your batch. I see what you mean, but, the ones I have reviewed (and there have been many) are indexed as individual cards. I also did not consider these cards to be a record that spans two images when I indexed them.
A obituary that spans two images would have all the names from both images under the deceased with a bunch of "others". These are individual deceased records with a few "others". Now, If one of the "others" happened to be on the next image, then that is a different scenario. The other would be indexed with the deceased from the previous card. But, I think the 2nd care would have more deceased folks to record and that would make it "indexable".
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The obituary cards appear to be a list of deceased people related to the header name. The header name is the same on each card and the number sequence continues to the next card. It appears that these two should be combined. The first card has run out of space and they continued over to the second card. However, those that are indexing are not combing them, at least the ones I have reviewed. And as you said there are many. Still not sure what to do
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Please provide or copy the URL link to the batch or post the share batch code with your question.
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@Mirevo The batch code has been in the first post.
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I think you will find that if you want to combine these, you will be sending a lot back for reindexing and if you change them and mark them No, no extractable data, the next reviewer will probably change them back, leaving it to the third reviewer to decide whether to accept or send them on to a FamilySearch team for a final decision. But, as a reviewer, it is your judgment call at this point, unless a moderator can get a "final answer" from headquarters. The project is 36% reviewed.
The instructions:
- If an obituary spans 2 images, index all of the names from both images in the data entry area for the first image. After indexing the names of all persons in the obituary, mark the second image in Step 1: Images as No, No Extractable Data.
The example for the lists:
Please note that an entry should be indexed for each obituary record listed on the document.
I picked up about 10 of these cards last night to index (obviously sent back for reindexing since the group has been done for at least 36 hours) and I surely didn't look to see if the previous or next image was the same individual on the top of the card. I reviewed a few this morning and sent along a Reason for Reindexing report because the person at the top was listed as an "other" for each of the deceased on the list. JMO, but, these are pretty much worthless pieces of information since the obituary should be found in the files and it is just good they are indexed at all.
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Apologize for requesting twice the batch code. If this is the batch code: M381-TRB I am restricted to open it up. I won't be able to provide my input.
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Weird, I just opened that batch again. Is that hyphen after the B on your copy and paste @Mirevo ? This is a whole file of thousands of these cards - 2,612 of them. The actual obituaries are in various other collections for Brown, Minnesota. Here's a link you can try and see them. https://www.familysearch.org/records/images/image-details?imageGroupNumbers=008939667&rmsId=TH-7768-102773-7887-47&imageIndex=997&singleView=true
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Thank you @raelenehillross1 for your question and @Melissa S Himes for your answers.
In looking at this film, these cards are an index, with dates, of different obituaries. Each name on the card (other than the name at the top of the card) would be indexed separately with their obituary date. No other information is available for the separate entries.
Under "What to Index" in the Project Instructions go to the sample "How to Index an Obituary List--Deceased". This explains that each name on the card is indexed independent of each other.
We appreciate your desire to index these precious records. Please continue to contribute to this great work.
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@donamariefournier There is other information available for separate entries on many of these. Following the rules of obituary indexing, if the card has a name and then says something like James Doe (son of John Doe), that make James a male and John Doe an "other" with the relationship of Parent. Although the example does not use this type of example, most indexers are including separate entries for the relatives, as would be correct.
We know that each name on the card is independent of each other.
The question that @raelenehillross1 was posing was whether the cards are indexed separately when they have the same name on the top of the card or considered as a record that spans two images. For instance, if only 12 names fit on the first card and the next card in the batch had names for deceased 13, 14, and 15, then are the deceased on the second card entered with the first card and the second card is marked No No Extractable Data.
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In response to your question @Melissa S Himes, these are not obituaries that are continued from card to card. This is a list of separate obituaries that are all just related to the name at the top of the card in some way. These names were most likely taken from Marcellus Altmann's obituary and then researched for these individual's obituary dates. Since this is not a real obituary there is no ability to index these cards combined. Please review this sample image: https://www.familysearch.org/indexing/images?fs-cache=true&key=idx-deepzoom-image&image=c90a283a-72a7-4486-9aba-ffb02dbfc6aa
@raelenehillross1, please just create an entry for each name, with a date, on the card in your batch and don't work this as a continuation of the previous card.
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