How can I give my family access to our full family tree?
I have been building my family's tree. How might I give my children access to it? Also, how can I share the deceased member part of my tree to collaborate with others?
Thank you.
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Every person page has an ID code, a PID, in the page title after the name and dates. If you make a list of PIDs for the nearest ancestors who are deceased, you can share the list with the family. Notice also the URLs of the pages on the web interface: the PIDs are part of the URLs. So you can share links with your family if they first log in on FamilySearch.
On the mobile app, just search on the PID. The mobile app is a great conversation starter because you can share it with others almost anywhere, anytime.
For those who prefer not to log in, there is the public (web searchable) FamilySearch Ancestors reflector website: https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/ . Prepare pages there by going there yourself and, after reaching any person page, replacing the PID-name-dates part of the URL with the PID of anyone on your list who does not yet have an Ancestors page. That causes the page to be generated.
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FYI
I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
FIRSTLY ...
It would be best, if the members of your Family, all had their OWN 'FamilySearch' Account.
That way the members of your Family will be able to "Collaborate" with each other in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
SECONDLY ...
Please be aware, that for "Living" Users/Patrons, just like "Living" individuals/persons, we HAVE to "Create" ("Living") DUPLIACTES of them in OUR own respective 'FamilySearch' Accounts.
In other words, the members of your Family, will ALL have to "Create" ("Living") DUPLIACTES of ALL "Living" Family members, in their respective, 'FamilySearch" Accounts.
And ...
That said ...
'Yes' ... they WILL be DUPLIACTES ... but, that is O.K.; and, a necessary fetaure for "Privacy".
Basically ...
You and your ("Living") Family members (and, extended Family) have to "Build" a "Bridge" of the "Living" individuals/persons (as "Living" DUPLICATES) that connect/link you together, in your respective 'FamilySearch' Accounts ...
Once, you and your ("Living") Family members (and, extended Family) have ALL "Built" that "Bridge" of the "Living" (individuals/persons) that connect/link you ALL together (as "Living" DUPLICATES); then, when you ALL come to your FIRST Common "Deceased" Ancestor, your "Ancestral" Lines will connect/link together into one ...
FINALLY ...
Here an old 'standby' of mine, that I have previously proffered on occasion ...
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Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons DO NOT understand the basic 'nature' and 'premise' of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.
Please let me explain ...
[ And, please bear with me; as, I am VERY 'Verbose' ... that is my 'style' ... ]
We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.
We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
And, most importantly ...
We DO NOT even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, Our OWN "Deceased" Ancestors/Family/Relatives in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' with another "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', regardless of who the User/Patron was that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron who initially created them - they are "Public".
If fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".
No other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.
We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.
Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:
▬ You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.
▬ You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.
There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User(s)/Patron(s).
There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.
"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.
Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.
Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.
I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.
Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch' in regard to "Private Spaces" and "Living" individuals/persons:
Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/who-can-see-my-living-relatives-in-family-tree
How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-private-space-in-family-tree
What Family Tree features are available in my private space?
Can my living relatives share a Family Tree private space to work together?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/share-a-family-tree-private-space-with-family
Can I transfer my Family Tree private space to another user?
Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' (and, other programmes as well):
Overview
'FamilySearch'
"Family Tree"
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/overview
Getting Started with Family History
Here are the main things you need to know as you get started
https://www.familysearch.org/home/etb_gettingstarted
How to Use the Family Tree
https://www.familysearch.org/blog/en/how-to-use-family-tree/
What is The Family History Guide?
https://media.familysearch.org/what-is-the-family-history-guide/
The Family History Guide
Introduction
About The Family History Guide
https://www.thefhguide.com/introduction.html
The Family History Guide
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I hope this helps.
Brett
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It is actually not necessary to make duplicate pages (or any pages) for living persons. That's entirely up to the family members.
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FYI
I am sorry ...
You are mistaken ...
Like it or not ...
Currently, for Family members, who are "Living", to 'see' ALL the various connections/links, between each other, what I have proffered is required.
Otherwise, ALL the various connections/links will NOT be in place.
One can certainly provide, OTHER Family members, with the "Details" of the "Deceased" individuals/persons, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'; but, there would be NO cohesion.
The User/Patron, who posted this 'Question', referenced "Giving" (and/or, "Sharing"; and/or, "Collaborating") with their, Children; and, Family.
"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' CAN (and, DOES) contain "Living" individuals/persons.
Such is ESPECIALLY true for Users/Patrons who are Members of the Church.
WITHOUT, those "Living" DUPLIACTES, one CANNOT expect, to connect/link to "Living" Users/Patrons of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', all around the world - which I have been able to do.
"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is, MUCH; Much; much, more than just a "Genealogical" Website of "Deceased" individuals/persons, for Users/Patrons who are Members of the Church.
Many Users/Patrons who are not members of the Church (and, some who are Members of the Church) DO NOT include many (if any) "Living" Family members - that is just fine; but, in such cases, one will not get to enjoy the fullness of that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
I have been using "Family Tree" (and, its forerunners) for, MANY; Many; many, Years.
Just my thoughts.
Brett
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