Is it possible to not allow SFK Legacy users adding to Vital Records?
In the spirit of using World Family Tree it is required that a Source be added when filling in one of the Vitals, example, Death or Birth. When a Legacy user fills in the Vital, you will see, ( taken from personal records ) or similar notes. you can not view this record at all depriving you of information that might be important. I have seen on my own tree near the beginning a totally incorrect Legacy submit, and also the ABT on other records. My personal feeling is that Legacy Records should not be allowed as Sources. How does the community feel about this and is there someone high up that could help?
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Rik,
In addition to the information that you have already received, it is also important to note that many, many, records are added to FamilyTree with minimal information. One of the valuable features of family tree when someone is added with approximate dates or approximate, or even incorrect places of birth or death, is that the search engines "crawling through the sources" when we are asleep, or maybe even away, will find information that will help interested individuals make corrections in the records and resolve some of the errors and approximations that were added when the records were first added.
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You are right about David being an older record as I started genealogy in 1995. I submitted my tree around 2008 or so. I do not think it is right to submit a record and then not allowing access to it, which by David’s sources you could see when you view the source. It does look like some of the Legacy Records are older, especially when you get the ABT thrown in. All I am saying is I do not agree with the Legacy submissions being allowed as legitimate sources without the information being confirmed and viewable. If the Legacy records could be submitted like the records in Search and viewed by the World Family Tree community, that would be so much better. Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.
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Here are few ideas:
You can give feedback about your concerns on Legacy sources:
You can also detach some of those legacy sources:
Hopefully this will answer your question.
Thank you for contacting FamilySearch. It has been a pleasure helping you. Best wishes as you continue working on finding records for your family.
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Thank you for your help.
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Here is an article that may help:
You can collaborate with those that have entered information in Family Tree by clicking on their name and gathering information from them on why they added "personal records". People that are adding to FamilySearch are doing their best and some may not know how to add sources, documents etc that would validate the detail.
If you have a specific PID number you would like us to look at please respond with that information.
Hopefully that will help.
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Thank you both for answering my question. Getting in touch with the Legacy submitters may help if they answer my message request. The one lady I have been in touch with is from my home town and is a consultant. I think a while back I read on what’s new that Legacy users would be allowed on World Family Tree. Here is what is happening. As a Source, the message is ( from personal records ), or the old ABT record throwing me back to the old days when this was a common response. What is more disturbing is the ( access denied ) when you want to review the record. Here is a person in my tree. please look at the Vitals and then the Sources section and you will see what I am talking about. David Stanley, 1807-1853. L4L5-T2Y. I just see the inclusion of Legacy users as a step backwards so far. Thanks again for you answers.
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Rick,
Please forgive me, but I have had several definitions of "legacy" and "Legacy" records and users in FamilySearch/FamilyTree over the last 10 years or so and I am not exactly certain to whom you are referring when you indicate "legacy users". I am currently presuming that you are referring to those who have been using older records to put information into Family Tree. I see on the records of David Stanley that his initial appearance in FamilyTree was from the old FamilySearch records that came into the current system in 2012 through 2014, then many changes since that date. There are some of the dates that some of us would like to standardize just because it is a suggestion and a habit for some of us who do support functions as there are times that it makes a difference for some features as well as helps improve search results at times.
Thank you for your concern and for your careful work in FamilySearch/Family Tree.
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CHold,
Thank you for all your help concerning my question about Legacy source submissions. Very helpful.
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It is the historical records that are access denied, and that is unusual.
This is what I see when I use the URL in the source link:
I think this has nothing to do with who previously contributed the person page or attached the sources.
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It does have issues at times, maybe all the time. Try using the link without the "www." and it usually will work. The other direct way to get to the Community is to click on the circled question mark in the right upper corner of all FamilySearch screens, then in the dropdown, click Community. Also, community.FamilySearch.org usually works most of the time. There are commonly issues that we end up dealing with and work-arounds that are found while the engineers continue working out the buts. There are so many features that when one new feature is added there are occasionally unintended consequences that occur and have to fixed when identified. Thank you for not giving up!
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