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MatthewDaly4
MatthewDaly4 ✭
September 1, 2021 edited September 1, 2021 in Search

I have a  Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 film number, what does the number relate to i.e. teh original doc? a place etc

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  • Paul W
    Paul W ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 1, 2021 edited September 1, 2021 Answer ✓

    @MatthewDaly4

    The fact that the Catalog shows no camera icon alongside the film number entry indicate the microfilm is not available at all through FamilySearch. The message displayed on the page at https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/452818?availability=Family%20History%20Library shows:

    Reasons why microfilms may not yet be available digitally on FamilySearch.org include:

    • The microfilm may be scheduled for future scanning.
    • The microfilm may have been scanned, but have a contractual, data privacy, or other restriction preventing access. FamilySearch makes every effort to enable access dependent on decisions of record custodians and applicable laws.

    So, no, although the film has been digitized, you will not be able to read the original information, unless these records are available through another source (e.g. a commercial website).

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 1, 2021 edited September 1, 2021 Answer ✓

    If you look up either the digital folder number or the microfilm number in the catalog (https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/452818), you'll see that the images are digitized but unavailable online on FamilySearch:

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    Further up on the catalog page, however, there's a link to Irish Genealogy.ie (https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/), which may have the images in question. I haven't explored that site, but you'll likely need to look for the record by place and date, not by FS's numbers.

    It looks like all three Michael and Ann Daly results on film 7718680 are for the same event, the birth/baptism of their son John Daly on 10 October 1864 in Drumnakilly, County Tyrone, near Omagh. The civil registration index has been incorrectly standardized by FamilySearch to a different Drumnakilly in Donegal.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5LR-4PJ

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL34-F5TP

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPTR-NW5

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  • PMLynch
    PMLynch mod
    September 1, 2021

    If you scroll further down he main page it will tell you where the records come from. Some records are on microfilm some of which are available on line some of which have not been digitalised yet.

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  • MatthewDaly4
    MatthewDaly4 ✭
    September 1, 2021 edited September 1, 2021

    So under document information it has:

    Document Information

    Digital Folder Number 007718680

    Microfilm Number 101096

    Originating System ODM

    Indexing Batch C01183-7

    Is there a way I can see the original documents to see more information as currently this is all it shows and no information about Births or Marriages?

    Screenshot 2021-09-01 at 14.23.04.png


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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 1, 2021

    I gave up and went to the Irish genealogy site. They do not make it easy to navigate or link to a record, but they do have the register page on which John Daly's birth in 1864 is recorded, as a PDF:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03596/2325980.pdf

    Here's my transcription:

    Superintendent Registrar's District: Omagh Union, Registrar's District: Omagh

    1864. Births Registered in the District of Omagh in the Union of Omagh in the County of Tyrone.

    No. 330. Date and Place of Birth: Tenth October 1864, Drumnakilly

    Name, Sex: John, Male

    Name and Surname and Dwelling Place of Father: Michael Daly, Drumnakilly

    Name and Surname and Maiden Surname of Mother: Ann Daly Formerly Daly

    Rank or Profession of Father: Farmer

    Signature, Qualification, and Residence of Informant: Michael Daily, Father, Drumnakilly

    When Registered: Seventeenth October 1865

    Signature of Registrar: William S. Love, Registrar

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