Need Danish Baptism Record translated and compared to marriage record.
In searching for Hans Nielsen and Maren Hansdatter, there appears to be two couples with these names in Fejø, Fuglse, Maribo, Denmark that I'm trying to sort out! A daughter, Dorthe Chatarine Hansdatter, LH2B-MYT, was baptized 1 May 1808 and born 17 February 1808 in that place. What is the word before the name of Hans Nielsen Kuld? Is it a farm name? I need to know where she was born! It mentions his WIFE, Maren Hansdatter as the mother. Can you translate whatever comes after the mother's name that may be helpful? (image 217)
I think I found their marriage record three years later but the groom is no longer using the Kuld name. Hans Nielsen is of Blands and Maren Hansdatter is of (?). They were married in Stokkemarke where she was born. I need help reading the rest of the record. Maren Hansdatter (MNFB-11 is usually from Vesterby; see 1834 census attached to her) Do you think this is their marriage? There are a number of possible duplicates shown.
Marriage #6 in 1811: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-994W-XQZN?i=232
Thank you for your help. This is very confusing!
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Hi Kristin.
It was certainly possible to bring this line of the family pretty far back in time.
If you have any question just ask them in this thread...
Unfortunately the origins of Claus Olufsen "Nau" cannot be determined. Only real possibility would be a "Fæstebrev" [letter of renting land], where it is sometimes stated where the person is born.
Sadly it doesn't seem these "Fæstebreve" are preserved for Skeby (around 1681) or Uggerslev (around 1693).
Cheers
Niels
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Hi Kristin.
Happy to be able to help.
Just write in this thread of you need any clarification.
Cheers
Niels
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Hi Joellen.
You are thinking about the family information in the probate of Claus Nau ? - the essential information has already been transcribed:
Probate after Claus Nau:
Gift 2. gang med Catharina Thomesdatter, laugværge hendes bror Niels Thomasen, Norup [so his second wife had a brother Niels Thomasen in Norup]
Børn:
Thomas Clausen, 21 år
Chresten Clausen, 17 år
Anne Clausdatter
Gift 1. gang med Anne Mortensdatter (name not mentioned in the probate itself)
Børn:
Hans Clausen, bor i Ørslev
Johan Clausen, 25 år
Dorthe Clausdatter, gift med Anders Christophersen, Østrup
Mette Clausdatter, gift med rytter på Sjælland [married a cavalryman on Sjælland under Hr. Oberst Liøÿenhelms [= Løwenhelm?] Regiment]
Rebetze Clausdatter, 26 år tjener svoger i Østrup [serves with a family member in Østrup]
Margrethe Clausdatter, gift med Hans Sørensen, Østrup (nævnes som til stede)
Uddrag ved Anne M
Source: https://www.faesterogskifter.dk/InfoSpage.aspx?id=169096
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In 1710 Hans Brockenhuus-Løwenhielm became Oberst and leader of the 1st Sjællandske Rytter Regiment from 1710-1716 [and the probate of Claus Nau is from 1715].
Source: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Brockenhuus-L%C3%B8wenhielm
So the unnamed husband of Mette Clausdatter must have been a cavalryman in this regiment and survived fighting the battles of Helsingborg (1710) and Gadebusch (1712), where Oberst Brockenhuus-Løwenhielm and the regiment was fighting, since he is not mentioned as dead in the probate.
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Thank you! That was just what I needed!
Joellen
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Niels,
You wrote: Final proof that rytter Claus Nau is the father of Thomas Clausen (1694-1747) in Roerslev and he is the father of Claus Thomasen (1723-1800) in Roerslev!!
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Gyldensten Gods
Skifteprotokol for Gyldensteen (1721-1763):
Anno 1749 den 17. November.....Uggerslef Sogn og Bye....Knud Nielsens ved døden afgangne hustru salig Catharina Thomasdatter...
Børn af forrige ægteskab [children of the former marriage - with Claus Nau]
salig Thomas Clausen i Roerslef, hans efterlevende børn ere Claus Thomasen boende i Roerslef..
Source (page 31, bottom right - page 32, left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17070359#139575,34355477
So Catharina Thomadatter died in 1749, her son (with Claus Nau) Thomas Clausen died 1747 in Roerslev, but his son Claus Thomasen living in Roerslev can inherit. [This gives us total proof]
It sounds like after Claus Nau died, his wife, Catharina Thomasdatter, married Knud Nielsen. Is that right?
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Uggerslev Sogn:
Dend 3. Februar [1693] blef Claus Novs hustru i Ugersløf begrafvet, som vaar ?0 Aar gammel, 2 uger og 1 dag.
Source (page 103. left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138663#181804,30866411
NB: So this is the burial of the former wife of Claus "Nau". Hard to see what the age is.....
It sounds like Claus Nau was married before Catharina Thomasdatter, but we don't know her name. Is that correct?
Joellen
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Yes, she married Knud Nielsen!
Uggerslev Sogn.
?Endnu? Pindsedag [9. June 1715] blef Knud Nielsen og Catrinæ Thomæsdatter (af Ugersløøf = Uggerslev) viede til sammen, som var Claus Nous enke.
Source (page 248, right mid): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138663#181804,30866556
The name of the first wife of Claus Nau is sadly no recorded in the church book and I can't discern what her age says: 40, 70 ?
Catharina Thomasdatter has a probate in 17. November 1749. Here is an already made transcription.
Gift 1. gang med Claus Nau
Børn:
Christen Clausen, Uggerslev
Thomas Clausen (død), Roerslev:
Claus Thomasen, Roerslev (værge for sine søskende) [guardian for his siblings]
Hans Thomasen, 22 år
Anders Thomasen, 20 år
Kirsten Thomasdatter, 19 år
Oluf Thomasen, 15 år
en datter (død = Anne Clausdatter):
Anna Olufsdatter 20 år, Gundstrup?
Catharina Olufsdatter 13 år, Gundstrup
Værge for disse piger: Christen Clausen og Claus Thomasen [Guardians for the girls]
Gift 2. gang med Knud Nielsen (he dies in Uggerslev in 1763 without any living children)
Uddrag ved Poul Erik Nikolajsen
Source: https://www.faesterogskifter.dk/InfoSpage.aspx?id=154895
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".. 1. Maj [1808] havde Gaardfolk i Westerbye, Hans Nielsen Kuld og hustru [= wife] Maren Hansdatter deres hiemmedøbte [= their home baptised] datter Dorthe Catharine [Hansdatter] til daaben..
Source (page 209): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17114665#149352,24700292
Vesterby is (at least today with 448 inhabitants) the largest village in Fejø Sogn: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fej%C3%B8_Sogn
Since Hans Nielsen Kuld & Maren Hansdatter are already married in 1808, it can't be their marriage in 1811....
Fejø Sogn kirkebog:
"Onsdagen den 29de April [1807] blev ungkarl Hans Nielsen fra Høismarke i Lolland og Maren Hansdatter viede.
Forlovere vare Niels Hansen fra Høismarke [probably his father] og Hans Jørgen Eriksen i Østerbye [probably her father].
Source (page 205 left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17114665#149352,24700288
Højsmarke is in Sandby Sogn on Lolland.
Census 1787: Maribo, Lollands Nørre, Sandby Sogn, Høysmarke bye, , 2, FT-1787, B4200
Niels Kuld 49 Gift Hosbonde Bonde og gård beboer
Dorthe Sørensdatter 41 Gift Madmoder Gård beboer
Grethe Nielsdatter 17 Ugift Deres barn
Jørgen Nielsen 16 Ugift Deres barn
Jens Nielsen 12 Ugift Deres barn
Hans Nielsen 8 Ugift Deres barn
Søren Nielsen 6 Ugift Deres barn
Kirsten Nielsdatter 3 Ugift Deres barn
Peder Nielsen 1 Ugift Deres barn
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
Census 1801: Maribo, Lollands Nørre, Sandby Sogn , Hoysmarke, , 115, FT-1801, B5133
Niels Kuld 63 Gift Husbonde Bonde og Gaardbeboer
Dorthe Sørensdatter 53 Gift Hans Kone
Jørgen Nielsen 30 Ugift Deres Barn
Jens Nielsen 25 Ugift Deres Barn Nat: Soldat
Hans Nielsen 23 Ugift Deres Barn Nat: Soldat
Peder Nielsen 15 Ugift Deres Barn
Kirsten Nielsen 17 Ugift Deres Barn
Thomas Hansen 4 Ugift en Datter Søn
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
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If Hans Jørgen Erichsen is Maren Hansdatter's father. [He is the only one by that name on Lolland]
Census 1787: Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Stokkemarke Sogn, Kiellernæs Bye, , 16, FT-1787, B5696
Hans Jørgen Eriksen 33 Gift Hosbonde Bonde og Gaardmand
Kirstine Christophersdatter 29 Gift Kone
Maren Hansdatter 5 - Barn af sidste Ægteskab
Magrethe Hansdatter 2 - Barn af sidste Ægteskab
Anne Hansdatter 1 - Barn af sidste Ægteskab
Christen Jørgensen 32 Ugift Tienestekarl National Soldat
Lars Madsen 32 Ugift Tienestekarl
Maren Hansdatter 16 Ugift Tienestepige
Else Karstensdatter 14 Ugift Tienestepige
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
Census 1801: Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Kappel Sogn, Siunkebye, , 14, FT 1801, A3945
Hans Jørgen Eriksen 47 gift Mand Selveier Møller uden Jord
Kirsten Christophers Datter 43 gift hans Kone
Anne Hans Datter 14 ugift Deres Barn
Christen Hansen 9 ugift Deres Barn
Lars Madsen 16 ugift Tienstedreng halvblind
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
NB: Maren Hansdatter no longer at home.
This could very likely be her, but not possible to prove.
Census 1801: Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Stokkemarke Sogn, Kielderness Bye, , 5.Familie, FT-1801, B7706
Jørgen Hansen 39 Gift Husbonde Bonde og Gaardbeboer
Margrethe Nielsdatter 26 Gift hans Kone
Peder Knudsen 34 Ugift Tienestekarl
Maren Hansdatter 19 - Tienestepige
Hans Hansen 15 - Tienestekarl
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
NB: The book "Træk af Livet på Fejø" af Niels Stenfeldt should give the information that Hans Jørgen Erichsen moved to Fejø in early 1803 [likely taking Maren Hansdatter with him]. When his wife died in 1812 he remarried and moved to Nakskov. He owned a farm at matrikel [cadastre] number 22c in Østerby on Fejø.
[His wife should have been from Landet Sogn and a widow, but without any papers [Skudsmålsbog] and they had arrived on Fejø unmarried with her being pregnant and he admitting to being the father, but now they wanted to be married in Fejø. It upset the priest, so he wrote to the bishop; but the result was that they got married.]
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Hans Jørgen Erichsen married the widow Karen Jørgensdatter in 24. August 1815 in Fejø Sogn.
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Død: 7. December 1818 i Fejø Sogn.
Navn: Hans [Nielsen] Kuld.
Gaardmand i Vesterbye.
Alder: 33 Aar.
Source (page 8): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21943671#435400,79117304
Viet: 5. Marts 1819 i Fejø Sogn.
Enkemand Rasmus Rasmussen & Enke efter Hans Kuld: Maren Hansdatter.
Source (page 9, bottom): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21943671#435397,79117244
Retsbetjente amt, Maribo, Nakskov, Skifteprotokol, 1820-1832:
Skifte [= Probate] efter Hans Jørgen Erichsen i Nakskov 19. Oktober 1831.
Datter Maren [Hansdatter] givt med indsidder Rasmus [Rasmussen] ?Colding? mand i Vesterbye paa Feyøe.
Source (page 580): http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=133004&side=580
Død: 2. September 1833 i Fejø Sogn.
Navn: Rasmus Rasmussen.
Aftægtsmand i Vesterbye.
Alder: 63 Aar. Født i Lolland.
Source (page 6, top): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21943671#435402,79117335
Census 1834: Maribo, Fuglse, Fejø Sogn, Vesterbye paa Fejøe,, en Gaard, 104, FT-1834, A4061
Søren Olsen 39 Gift Gaardmand
Kirsten Johansdatter 37 Gift hans Kone
Anne Olesdatter 8 Ugift deres Datter
Maren Hansdatter 50 Enke Lever af aftægt, Gaardmandsenke
Rasmus Rasmussen 15 Ugift hendes Barn
Karen Kirstin Rasmusdatters 14 Ugift hendes Barn
Anne Magrete Rasmusdatter 19 Ugift har her Logi, Dagleierske
Ole Rasmussen Sørensen 1 Ugift hendes Søn
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
Død: 7. Februar 1839 i Fejø Sogn.
Navn: Maren Hansdatter.
Enke efter afdøde gaardmand Rasmus Rasmussen Kolling i Vesterbye.
Alder: 55 Aar.
Født i Kieldernæs i Lolland.
Source (page 2, top): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21943671#435422,79117732
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Lægdsrulle 1801. Halsted Amt. Lægd 25 = Sandby Sogn.
Father: Niels Kulse.
Sons: [Fits the Census 1787 for Niels Kuld]
Jens.
Jørgen.
Hans. Born Høysmarke. 22 years old. Height: 62 3/4 Danish "tommer". Session 1800: P.F.R 1/81. [Old number 85, new number 65]
Søren
Peder
Source (page 225, left top): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17302,744812
NB: So he enters "Prins Frederiks Regiment" in 1800 - probably 1. compagnie, nr. 81.
About the Regiment:
Ebersteins Regiment 1657-1665
Bremers Regiment 1665-1672 Måske kun til 1670.
Max Rosenkrants Regiment 1672-1676
Prins Christians Regiment (til Fods) 1676-1695
Prins Carls Regiment 1695-1730
Schacks Regiment 1730-1734
Dombroicks Regiment 1734-1735
Lollandske Geworbne Infanteri Regiment 1735-1753
Lollandske (Infanteri)regiment 1735-1753
Prins Frederiks (Infanteri)regiment 1753-1806
Prins Frederiks geworbne Infanteri Regiment 1753-1806
Prins Christian Frederiks Regiment (til Fods) 1806-1839
Kongens Regiment (til Fods) 1839-1842
6. Linie Infanteribataillon 1842-1860
6. Infanteribataillon 1860-1863
6. Infanteriregiment 1863-1865
6. Infanteribataillon 1865-1867
6. Bataillon 1867-1951 [what it has to be searched under today in the archives]
NB: He seems to have been in the conscripted part of the regiment.
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Prinsens Livregiment (3. Regiment), 6. Bataljon: G. Stambøger (1790 - 1933):
1. Musketerkompagni Frimænd 1803 - 1. Musketerkompagni Frimænd 1816.
Nr. 149: Musqueteer Hans Nilsen, Høysmark.
Source: (Page 79, left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=22714428#476022,85154699
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Nils, you have gone to so much work! Wow! I'm helping my friend. We know her direct ancestors are Anne Hansdatter
Female1787–1842 •MNF1-MMP
Who married Claus Thamasen
Male1781–Deceased •27XC-YVH
Marriage
27 February 1813Stokkemarke, Maribo, Storstrøm, Denmark
The ancestor we are researching is Anne Hansdatter’s sister: Maren Hansen
Female1782–1839 •MNFB-11X
1787 Census:
Hans Jørgen Eriksen Gender Male Age 33 County Maribo Hundred Lollands Sønder Parish Stokkemarke Placename Kiellernæs Bye (his)2nd Marriage 460 Kirstine Christophersdatter Female 29 1758 Married Kone – (her) 1st marriage
461 Maren Hansdatter Female 5 1782 Single Barn af sidste Ægteskab (child of last marriage)
462 Magrethe Hansdatter Female 2 1785 Single Barn af sidste Ægteskab (child of last marriage)
463 Anne Hansdatter Female 1 1786 Single Barn af sidste Ægteskab (child of last marriage)
We want to be sure we are attaching the right Hans Nielsen as the husband of Maren Hansdatter. Here is the marriage we found: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-994W-XQZN which is 1811 in Stokkemarke! The groom was residing on the farm of Blands. Is this Hans Nielsen also known as Hans Nielsen Kuld, and did they move to Fejo or stay in Stokkemarke? There are other Hans Nielsens married to Maren Hansdatters! If I know this one is known as Kuld (Buried 7 Dec. 1818, the Gaardmand in Vesterby, Hans Kuld, age 33 years. https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn723/churchbook/source141042/opslag15611231), then I can be sure of the following: Entry #1 in 1819
Widower Rasmus Rasmussen married the widow of Hans Kuld, Maren Hansdatter of Vesterby (farm name) on 5 March 1819 in Fejö Parish. https://ao.sa.dk/ao/data.ashx?bid=24700430
Can you confirm the Maren Hansdatter born 1782 in Stokkemarke married Hans Nielsen Kuld or was it another Hans Nielsen?
Many, many thanks and blessings to you for all of your work on this!
Just so you know, I only speak English but use google translate to help me with the Danish!
Joellen
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The probate of Maren Hansdatter's father is a huge find! I never would have found that!
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Hi Joellen.
Fejø Sogn kirkebog:
"Onsdagen den 29de April [1807] blev ungkarl Hans Nielsen fra Høismarke i Lolland og Maren Hansdatter viede.
Forlovere vare Niels Hansen fra Høismarke [father of Hans Nielsen] og Hans Jørgen Eriksen i Østerbye [father of Maren Hansdatter].
Source (page 205 left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17114665#149352,24700288
As the marriage of Hans Nielsen [Kuld] and Maren Hansdatter lists the grooms/best men as Niels Hansen of Højsmarke [Niels Hansen Kuld] & Hans Jørgen Erichsen of Østerby it must be the correct marriage (of the Maren Hansdatter born in Stokkemarke, where Hans Jørgen Erichsen still was located in the census of 1787).
Later in 1819 Maren Hansdatter marries Rasmus Rasmussen Colding/Kolling [must be named after the town Kolding] with certainty; as she is stated to be the widow of "Hans Kuld".
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Marriage in Stokkemarke Sogn 24/27. Februar 1813 [if that it was it says on the extreme right].
ungkarl Claus Thomsen & pigen Ane Hansdatter.
Source (page 110, right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17118784#156856,26297760
Retsbetjente amt, Maribo, Nakskov, Skifteprotokol, 1820-1832:
Skifte [= Probate] efter Hans Jørgen Erichsen i Nakskov 19. Oktober 1831.
Datter Ane [Hansdatter] givt med ?.....? Claus Thomsen i Stokke..? [must mean Stokkemarke].
Source (page 580): http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=133004&side=580
So the probate proves Ane married a Claus Thomsen! [Thomsen/Thomesen/Thommesen are variant spellings].
The probate is very hard to read, but that crucial info I can discern, when I know what to look for.
Census 1834: Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Stokkemarke Sogn, Stokkemarke Bye, Huus, , 40, FT-1834, B7419
Claus Thomesen 53 Gift Huusmand
Anne Hansdatter 45 Gift hans Kone
Karen Marie Andersen 10 Ugift deres Pleiedatter [foster daughter]
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
Census 1840: Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Stokkemarke, Stokkemarke Bye, Huus, , , FT-1840, B2485
Claus Thomesen 59 Gift lever af sin Huuslod og Dagleie
Anne Hansdatter 51 Gift hans Kone
Anne Rasmusdatter 4 Ugift deres Pleiebarn [foster child]
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
NB: You earned some money from the state by taking in foster children and providing for them for a couple of months/years. Sometimes family members (often grandparents) took in relatives as foster children, if their parents had financial difficulties (or went to jail).
Død: 20. August 1842 i Stokkemarke Sogn.
Navne: Claus Thommesen [the line over the m signals a double -mm-]
Husmand i Stokkemarke.
Alder: 62 Aar.
Source (page 8, nr 13): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21943633#434747,79097382
Død: 25. August 1842 i Stokkemarke Sogn.
Navn: Ane Hansdatter.
Afdød husmand Claus Thomsens kone i Stokkemarke.
Alder: 58 Aar.
Source (page 7, bottom): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21943633#434750,79097455
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Census 1787: Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Tillitse Sogn, Stødbye, , 2, FT-1787, A3543
Anders Lassen 47 gift Husbond Bonde og Gaard Beboer
Birthe Knuds Datter 67 gift Madmoder
Hans Jensen 27 ugift Tienstefolk
Karen Niels Datter 18 ugift Tienstefolk
Kiersten Thomas Datter 14 ugift Tienstefolk
Claus Thomasen 6 ugift et Pleie Barn af Sognet [= a foster child of the parish]
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
NB: I can't find him born in Tillitze not Stokkemarke, but since he is a foster child of the parish, it is very likely that his mother was from Tillitze Sogn even if he wasn't born there.
Grevskabet Knuthenborgs gårde og huse - Stokkemarke sogn.
Brandmosevej 29. Matr. 66a Stokkemarke.
1815: HF = Husfæster [so he rented the place from Count Knuth]
Claus Thomsen 1781-1842
hustru Ane Hansdatter 1790-1842
børn: Hans 1813, Thomas 1815-1824, Rasmus 1818, Kirstine 1825†
Source (original page 95): http://hensch.dk/pdf/Stokkemarke%20sogn.pdf
Cheers
Niels
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Grevskabet Knuthenborgs gårde og huse - Stokkemarke sogn.
Brandmosevej 29. Matr. 66a Stokkemarke
1842: HF = Husfæster
søn [son of Claus Thomsen] Rasmus Clausen 1818-
hustru Lisbeth Hansdatter 1819-
Source (original page 95): http://hensch.dk/pdf/Stokkemarke%20sogn.pdf
NB: So Rasmus Clausen took over the "Fæste" from his father.
Knuthenborg fæsteprotokol is sadly not online. [could give us information of Claus Thomsens place of birth]
There doesn't seem to be any probate after Claus Thomsen nor Ane Hansdatter, so Rasmus Clausen probably just took over the "husmandssted".
Census 1845: Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Stokkemarke Sogn, Brændsemosen, et Huus, , 92, FT-1845, B8414
Rasmus Clausen 27 Gift Dagleier Stokkemarke [son af Claus Thomsen]
Lisbeth Hansdatter 26 Gift hans Kone Stokkemarke
Rasmus Hansen 25 Gift Inderste og Dagleier Stokkemarke
Maren Hansdatter 25 Gift hans Kone Stokkemarke
Maren Rasmusdatter 1 Ugift Datter Stokkemarke
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
Here below in 1860 he has stopped renting the "husmandssted" from Count Knuth and has now bought his own house in Tjennemarke (as he is registred as "parcelist"):
Census 1860: Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Stokkemarke Sogn, Abed Skoledistrikt, Tjennemarke By, Et Hus, 355, FT-1860, D6115
Rasmus Clausen 42 Gift Husfader. Parcellist. Huggemand. Stokkemarke Sogn, Maribo Amt
Lisbeth Hansdatter 42 Gift Hans Kone Stokkemarke Sogn, Maribo Amt
Claus Rasmussen 12 Ugift Deres Barn Stokkemarke Sogn, Maribo Amt
Rasmus Rasmussen 9 Ugift Deres Barn Stokkemarke Sogn, Maribo Amt
Ane Margrethe Rasmussen 1 Ugift Deres Barn Stokkemarke Sogn, Maribo Amt
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
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Claus Thomsen candidate 1:
Dannemare Sogn.
Dåb [Baptism]
Samme dag [11. Juni 1780] Thomas Clausens søn Claus [Thomsen]..
Source (page 62, left column mid): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17114413#148908,24612667
Possible it is this child born in Egebølle.......[proved to be the wrong Thomas Clausen in the end]
Lægdsrulle 1791. Halsted Amt. Lægd 25 = Tillitze Sogn.
Father: Thomas Clausen.
Number 5: Claus [Thomsen]
Age 10.
Born: Egbøl [That could be Egebølle in Dannemare Sogn]
Source (page 157): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=17267#17267,737894
Lægdsrulle 1796. Halsted Amt. Lægd 25 = Tillitze Sogn.
Born: Egebølle [so here the location is secure]
Current Residence: Egebølle.
Source (page 177, bottom left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17291,741871
Lægdsrulle 1801: Halsted Amt. Lægd 25 = Tillitze Sogn.
New number 1:
Rytter 1802.
?..? Møen 4-88 C.R. [?Canceliets Resolution?] 11. Juli 1802. [probably sendt to Møn on that date]
Source (page 190, left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17302,744777
Lægdsrulle 1805: Maribo Amt. Lægd 88 = Tillitze Sogn.
Rytter ?..? 1802.
for Møens 4-88
Source (page 308, left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17315,748843
Lægdsrulle 1808: Maribo Amt. Lægd 88 = Tillitze Sogn.
Age 26 years.
Height 67 1/2 danish tommer [ca. 177 cm, quite tall for this age]
S. 1811 P.C.F.R 3/2 [Session 1811 Prince Christian Frederiks Regiment 3/2] [later 6. Batailion]
Source (page 289): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17326,751844
Lægdsrulle 1811: Maribo Amt. Lægd 88 = Tillitze Sogn.
Underbefalingsmand.
Gaardmand ved ?...?
Fæste 29. November 1810.
Source (page 294, right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17419,777467
Lægdsrulle 1814: Maribo Amt. Lægd 88 = Tillitze Sogn.
NB: There is no moving to Stokkemarke; so this IS THE WRONG CLAUS THOMSEN...
Source (page 310, left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17349,757049
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Claus Thomsen candidate 2: [the only two Claus Thomsen I can find in the census of 1787]
Census 1787: Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Stokkemarke Sogn, ??, , 2, FT-1787, B5696
Thomas Klausen 35 Gift Mand Indsidder og Dagleyer
Bodil Hansdatter 30 Gift Kone
Kirsten Thomasdatter 7 - Deres Barn
Klaus Thomasen 5 - Deres Barn
Hans Thomasen 2 - Deres Barn
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
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The second Candidate from Stokkemarke Sogn in census 1787:
Lægdsrulle 1791. Halsted Amt. Lægd 9 = Stokkemarke Sogn.
Fader: Thomas Clausen.
Nr: 250: Claus [Thomsen].
Fødested: Grimstrup [Grimstrup is in Hunseby Sogn!]
Alder: 9 Aar.
Opholdssted: Gammeltofte.
(Nr. 251: Hans. (a younger brother). Born: ?Mæreskou?. Alder 5 aar.) [Perhaps Merretskov/Merritzskov in Bandholm Sogn, back then Østofte Sogn]
Source (page 84, left bottom): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=17267#17267,737821
NB: The census 1787 also recorded a younger brother named Hans!
Hunseby Sogn:
Dåb af Claus [Thomsen]
Dominica Septuagesima [21. Januar 1782] Thomas Clausens søn i Grimstrup.
Source (page 41, left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17116149#151808,25246522
Lægdsrulle 1792:
New number 200.
Source (page 66): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=17276#17276,739238
Lægdsrulle 1796:
New Number 142.
Source (page 87): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17291,741781
Lægdsrulle 1801:
New Number 107.
Alder 20 Aar.
Højde: 64 tommer.
UTS = Uegnet til Soldat [Not fit to be a soldier]. Svullen venstre ?tisticul? [Swollen left testicle] Session 1803.
Source (page 93): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17302,744680
Lægdsrulle 1805: Maribo Amt. Lægd 77 = Stokkemarke Sogn.
Fader: Thomas Clausen.
Navn: Claus [Thomsen].
Fødested: Grimstrup. [Hunseby Sogn]
Alder: 22 Aar.
Højde: 65 tommer.
Opholdssted: Stokkemark.
Svullen Testikel. UTS.
Session 1808. Har brok [have a hernia].
[He is likely deleted from the rolls because of medical reasons]
Source (page 200): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17315,748735
NB: We can't follow him until his marriage in 1813....
His younger brother Hans is listed as born in "Merritzskov" [Bandholm Sogn, back then Østofte Sogn].
Østofte Sogn:
Dåb:
Dominica 2. post Trinitatis [25. Juni 1786] Thomas Clausen fra Meritzskows ?teglbrænnerhuus? [Brickburner-house] en Søn til Daabens Confirmation, forhen hiemmedøbt kaldet Hans [Thomsen/Thomasen]
Source (112, nr 21): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17120103#159413,26806603
This seems so far to be the Claus Thomsen, that married Ane Hansdatter in 1813 in Stokkemarke Sogn.
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Thank you! Thank you! What more can I say when you have gone to so much work? I'm anxious to review your findings on Claus Thomasen, husband of Anne Hansdatter! If you can only find two with that name in Maribo and have ruled out one, that is awesome!
I can't say enough about how helpful the probates are. We wouldn't have found them without you!
Thanks so much, Nils!
Joellen
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Hi Joellen.
Thomas Clausen [father of Claus Thomesen] is not to found in the census of 1801.....so either he moved away from Stokkemarke OR died between 1787-1801; but there is no Thomas Clausen dying in Stokkemarke in this time period, but there is the following person....
Begravet: 22. Februar 1795 in Stokkemarke Sogn.
Navn: Thomas Fynboe i Tammetofte. [So a Thomas from Funen living in Tammetofte]
Alder: 50 Aar.
Source (page 259, left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17118784#156855,26297556
On Funen [specifically Nørre Næraa Sogn] there is actually a Thomas Clausen marrying a Bodil Hansdatter in 1778 and no such couple appear in the census 1787 in Nørre Næraa....
Viet: 28. December 1778 in Nørre Næraa Sogn.
Thomas Clausen og Bodild Hansdatter copulerede.
Source (page 37, right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138087#180395,30600460
So far from any proof, but a working hypothesis, that this couple moved to Lolland.
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The daughter of Thomas Clausen & Bodil Hansdatter (appearing in the census of 1787) must be this one in census 1801.
Census 1801: Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Stokkemarke Sogn, Bøllesminde Parcell, , 1.Familie, FT-1801, B7706
Jacob Bølle 47 Gift Husbonde Forpagter
Kirstine Jensen 52 Gift hans Kone
Jørgen Jacobsen 4 Ugift Pleyebarn
Niels Michelsen 29 - Tienestekarl
Catrine Jensdatter 24 - Tienestepige
Kirsten Thomasdatter 22 - Tienestepige [= Servant girl]
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
Census 1787: Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Stokkemarke Sogn, ??, , 2, FT-1787, B5696
Thomas Klausen 35 Gift Mand Indsidder og Dagleyer
Bodil Hansdatter 30 Gift Kone
Kirsten Thomasdatter 7 - Deres Barn
Klaus Thomasen 5 - Deres Barn
Hans Thomasen 2 - Deres Barn
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
Actually there is a Kirsten baptised in 1779 in Nørre Næraa with father Thomas Clausen!!
It totally fits with her being 22 years old in the census 1801!
Nørre Næraa Sogn:
Dia Jubil[ate] [= 25. April 1779] Thomas Clausens barn i Røeslef [= Roerslev]... N[omen] Kirsten [Thomasdatter].
Source: https://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/kbid188626
So it really does look like Thomas Clausen and Bodil Hansdatter was from Funen [Danish: Fyn].
Roerslev is in Nørre Næraa Sogn, Skam Herred, Odense Amt.
This was one very lucky find!! [only possible because his name is fairly uncommon]
Cheers
Niels
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Nørre Næraa Sogn:
Døbt:
Dominica Rogate [19. Maj 1748] Claus Thomassens søn af Roeslef [= Roerslev] N[omen] Thomas [Clausen], døbt.
Source (page 121, right mid): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138087#516791,30595848
Gyldensten Gods.
Skifteprotokol [Probate-protocol] for Gyldensteen (1772-1789).
Anno 1782 den 5. November....bonde gaard i Roarsløw Bye [= Roerslev by]...fæsteren Claus Thomsen, hvis hustru navnlig Karen Lars Datter for 30de Døgn siden ved Døden er afgaaet..
Een Søn navnlig Thomas Clausen, 34 Aar gammel, som ?........? grevskabet Knuthenborg i Lolland....
Source (page 131, right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17070359#139578,34356275
NB: So Karen Larsdatter - the wife of "fæstegårdmand" Claus Thomsen - died 30 days before this probate.
Their son Thomas Clausen - 34 years old - is located on Lolland within the Count of Knuthenborg's lands.
[This is proof as he is in Stokkemarke in 1782, where Claus Thomesen is born the same year]
Here is the work of other genealogists:
Claus Thomasen (FT87: Roerslev 2.)
gårdmand, Roerslev
døbt: 6 jan 1723
begravet: 14 jun. 1800, 77 år
gift med
Karen Larsdatter [1st Wife]
begravet 11 okt. 1782, 57 år
gift med
Maren Nielsdatter [2nd Wife]
født ca. 1752
Children:
a. Thomas Clausen, døbt 19 maj 1748, 1782 bosiddende på Lolland [the genealogist knew of the probate-info, but nothing more of his wife]
etc....many other children
Source (original page 51, tabel 31): https://slaegtsbibliotek.dk/807043.pdf
Gyldensten Gods
Fæsteprotokol for Gyldensten (Enggård) (1719-1801)
Fæstebrev fra Johan Henric, Greve af Gyldensteen d. 12. Januar 1748....til Claus Thomasen, barnfød i Roerslef udi Næraae Sogn....som hans fader Thomas Clausen....
Source (page 92, right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=20803069#326703,65807753
NB: Så Claus Thomasen takes over the "Fæste" from his father Thomas Clausen, under the lands of the Count of Gyldensten.
A genealogist again:
Thomas Clausen
gårdmand, Roerslev
begravet 20 dec 1747, 55 År.
trolovet 12 jul, gift 15 nov 1722 med
Magdalene Hansdatter (af Bredstrup)
a. Claus Thomasen, døbt 6 jan 1723
etc more children.
Source (original page 82, tabel 155): http://www.wadschier.dk/afskrifter/noerre_naeraa_sogns_befolkning_til_1787.pdf
Nørre Næraa Sogn:
Døbt:
Festum Epiphania [6. Januar 1723] Thomas Clausens barn er Roerslef N[omen] Claus [Thomasen] døbt.
Source (page 77, right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138087#516791,30595804
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Begravelse:
Den 14. Junii [1800] Claus Thomasen af Roerslef begraven, gammel 77 Aar.
Source (page 72, left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138087#180395,30600495
That this Claus Nau is the father of Thomas Clausen - later fæster in Roerslev - is not absolutely proven yet:
Uggerslev Sogn.
Døbt:
Die Annuntiatio Mariæ [25. Marts 1694] blefv Clauss Nous Rytters barn i Uggerslev ?krisnet?, som vaar fød den 23. Martii kaldet Thomas [Clausen].
Source (page 112, left bottom): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138663#181804,30866420
So Claus Nou is a Rytter [= cavalryman] in Uggerslev.
Første Fynske nationale Rytterregiment.
1. regiments skifteprotokol (1710-1718): [Military Probate]
Anno 1715 den 28 Marts.....General-Major Chrestian Juels Cuirasser Regiment udlagde Ryttergaard udi Uggerslef.....
..afgangne Claus Nau..
..efterladte hustru Catharina Thomesdatter..
Sønner:
Thomas Clausen, 21 Aar.
Source (page 210, right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17070972#282541,55011361
So he was a cuirassier in the "1st. Funen national Cavalry Regiment" under Generalmajor Juel.
Cuirassiers were heavy cavalry with armoured breastplates [the shock troops on the battle field up and including the Napoleonic wars]
Conclusion:
Claus Nogs/Nau/Nov/Snou/Schnar [enormous spelling variations] (died 1715) & Catharina Thomesdatter
Thomas Clausen (1694 -1747) & Magdalene Hansdatter.
Claus Thomasen (1723-1800) & Karen Larsdatter (-1782)
Thomas Clausen (1748-1795) & Bodil Hansdatter.
Claus Thomsen/Thomesen (1782-1842) & Ane Hansdatter (1790-1842).
Now that is pretty good, don't you think.
Cheers
Niels
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Final proof that rytter Claus Nau is the father of Thomas Clausen (1694-1747) in Roerslev and he is the father of Claus Thomasen (1723-1800) in Roerslev!!
Gyldensten Gods
Skifteprotokol for Gyldensteen (1721-1763):
Anno 1749 den 17. November.....Uggerslef Sogn og Bye....Knud Nielsens ved døden afgangne hustru salig Catharina Thomasdatter...
Børn af forrige ægteskab [children of the former marriage - with Claus Nau]
salig Thomas Clausen i Roerslef, hans efterlevende børn ere Claus Thomasen boende i Roerslef..
Source (page 31, bottom right - page 32, left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17070359#139575,34355477
So Catharina Thomadatter died in 1749, her son (with Claus Nau) Thomas Clausen died 1747 in Roerslev, but his son Claus Thomasen living in Roerslev can inherit. [This gives us total proof]
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Uggerslev Sogn:
Dend 3. Februar [1693] blef Claus Novs hustru i Ugersløf begrafvet, som vaar ?0 Aar gammel, 2 uger og 1 dag.
Source (page 103. left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138663#181804,30866411
NB: So this is the burial of the former wife of Claus "Nau". Hard to see what the age is.....
Viet: 6. Oktober 1681 i Skeby Sogn.
Claus Schnap Rytter og Anne Mortensdatter af ?Ørritslev? [Ørritslev is in Skeby Sogn]
Source (page 55, bottom right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138663#181804,30866411
NB: They will get 6 children in Skeby Sogn, with him under the name of Claus Nog, Claus Noy or Claus Rytter (last one in 1691). "Schnap" is most likely an army name (modern Danish "snap" meaning "fast/quick").
These children are (almost) the same names as occurs as inheritors of the former wife (unnamed in the probate) of Claus "Nau" in the probate of 1715....
So it is between 1691-1693 where they move to Uggerslev, where Anne Mortensdatter died in 1693 and he remarries with Catharina Thomasdatter (Thomas Clausen born 1694 in Uggerslev is their first child).
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Uggerslev Sogn.
Den 12. Martii [1715] blef Claus Olufsøn Snou i Ugersløf begrafvet i sit alders 63. Aar.
Source (page 247, right mid): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138663#181804,30866555
NB: The "Claus-of-many-nicknames" had the patronym Olufsen. [could Snou be the modern meaning of "snu" = cunning?
So born around 1652 (but ages at burials can be very unreliable in this time period).
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Første Fynske nationale Rytter Regiment.
1ste Regiments Inkvisitionsprotokol 1702-1717.
Ottense Ambt Inquisitions-Protocol over Velborne Hr. Brigadier, Baron, Obrister Schach Brochtorffs fynsche National Regimentz Ryttergods.....
Ugersløf Sogn og Bye.
Major gref Holchis [Grev Holch] Compagnie.
Olluf Hanssen, ?tilforn? Jørgen Jenssen, nu
Claus Nou. ..ringe midler [have few means]
[period 1712-1717] Knud Nielsen [he takes over the farm by marrying the widow Catharine Thomasdatter]
Source (page 31): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=20146209#282586,55020366
Det Fynske Rytterdistrikt
Ruller og lister (1702-1714):
Hr. Bregadier og Obrister Schack Brochdorf 1702:
Ugersløf Sogn og Bye.
[NB: no Claus Nau, as he is likely to old to be an active soldier]
Source (page 83): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=20146359#282846,55088912
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Nils, I never expected you to do so much research! It's amazing and generous at the same time. It will take me a few days to be able to sort this out, so I may need to ask for clarification next week. Unfortunately, I'm not able to work on it before Sunday, but I'm sure looking forward to it! I really appreciate the extensive research and all of the source links you provided as well as your expert ability to translate even the most difficult records. You're an angel for sure!
Joellen McAlister
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Hi Joellen.
Happy to help!
Just noticed I had put in a wrong link for the marriage in 1781 [have so many taps open], so here it is again with the correct link:
Viet: 6. Oktober 1681 i Skeby Sogn.
Claus ?Schnap/Schnar? Rytter og Anne Mortensdatter af ?Ørritslev? [Ørritslev is in Skeby Sogn]
Source (page 55, bottom right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138367#181133,30753623
Unclear if Schnap or Shhnar as it looks somewhat overwritten?!
NB: They will get at least 6 children in Skeby Sogn (have found Mette Helvig, Hans, Margrethe, Rebecca, Johan & Lars), with him under the name of Claus Nog, Claus Noy or Claus Rytter (last one in 1691). "Schnap" is most likely an army name (modern Danish "snap" meaning "fast/quick").
These children are (almost) the same names as occurs as inheritors of the former wife (unnamed in the probate) of Claus "Nau" in the probate of 1715....
So it is between 1691-1693 where they move to Uggerslev, where Anne Mortensdatter died in 1693 and he remarries with Catharina Thomasdatter (Thomas Clausen born 1694 in Uggerslev is their first child).
NB: His daughter in her marriage of 1712 is called Margrethe Clausdatter Schnar.
Skeby Sogn.
Viet: 24. Januar 1712 i Skeby Sogn.
Hans ?Søvrenssøn? [= Sørensen] af Skibby og Margrethe Clausdatter Schnar af Øritzløf i Dominica Septuagesima dend 24. Januar.
Source (page 60, left mid): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138367#181133,30753628
NB: The probate after Claus "Nau" in 1715 tells that his daughter (baptised in 1686) Margrethe is married to Hans Sørensen, so it is definitely the correct daughter.
Found the oldest child of Claus "of-many-names" which was out of wedlock.
Skeby Sogn
Dåb: 25. Marts 1681.
Anne Mortensdatters Wægte [= uægte] barn ved nafn Dorithe [= Dorthe] af Øritzlef vor Frue dag udi Fasten som er dend 25. Martiis.
..udlagde en Rytter ?...? Claus Nog... [so the cavalryman Claus Nog is named as father of the child]
Source (page 12, 2nd entry top left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138367#181133,30753580
NB: The entry is very hard to read.
Dorthe Clausdatter appears in the probate of Claus "Nau" in 1715 as married to Anders Christophersen [that means all the names of the children with Anne Mortensdatter in that probate is accounted for].
Claus is first detected as "Claus Naa? Rytter og hans hustrue" in Uggerslev in January 1693 with his wife [she is buried 3rd February 1693).
Source (page 103. left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138663#181804,30866411
Cheers
Niels
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Niels I am Kristin Richards, who Joellen McAlister is helping. Thank you so much for the help on my family it very exciting to find family members so far back. Your research is amazing. I am so grateful to have the ability to expand my tree and learn more about where my ancestors are from. It may take us a month to add all this to the tree. We may have some additional questions or need for clarification as we go. I can see from other posts you are a huge benefit to folks researching their family tree.
Thank you!!!
Kristin Richards
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Hi Kristin.
Happy to be able to help. 😀
If you have any further question, just continue this thread!
Cheers
Niels
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Niels, We've been busy attaching sources, but this will take a long time for us to attach everything, because you have done so much research for us. We'll keep in touch.
Thanks again!
Joellen
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About Hans Jørgen Eriksen (father of Maren and Anne Hansdatter):
Census 1787: Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Stokkemarke Sogn, Kiellernæs Bye, , 16, FT-1787, B5696
Hans Jørgen Eriksen 33 Gift Hosbonde Bonde og Gaardmand
Kirstine Christophersdatter 29 Gift Kone
Maren Hansdatter 5 - Barn af sidste Ægteskab
Magrethe Hansdatter 2 - Barn af sidste Ægteskab
Anne Hansdatter 1 - Barn af sidste Ægteskab
Christen Jørgensen 32 Ugift Tienestekarl National Soldat
Lars Madsen 32 Ugift Tienestekarl
Maren Hansdatter 16 Ugift Tienestepige
Else Karstensdatter 14 Ugift Tienestepige
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
Stokkemarke Sogn's church book. Baptism.
Dominica Misericordia Domini [= 28. April 1754]: Hans Jørgen [Eriksen].
Eric Hansens søn i Stokkemarke.
Baaren af Marrgrethe Jørgensdatter [who carried Hans Jørgen at the baptism; is NOT the mother≠].
Faddere: Christopher væver, Dorthe ?Olles?datter, Niels snedker i Stokkemarke og Ole Raaehauge i Taagerup.
Source (page 59, right mid): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17118784#156854,26297192
Possible father:
Matrikel 58a Stokkemarke.
HF indtil 1775 Erik Hansen Fæster af matr. 73a Stokkemarke
HF 1775 søn væver Anders Eriksen 1747(*sto-73a)-1829 (sto-73a>)
h. Elisabeth Pedersdatter 1748-1830
b. Ane Kathrine 1775, Hans 1777, Margrethe 1780,
Maren Elisabeth 1783, Erik 1786, Kirstine 1790 (hav-21a>)
Source (original page 288): http://hensch.dk/pdf/Stokkemarke%20sogn.pdf
Matrikel 12a Stokkemarke.
GF e.1750 Hans Eriksen Kaae 1744-1778 [these years seems wrong; is he the father of Erik Hansen?]
h. NN 1714-1760
GF 1773 Erik Hansen (>sto-73a)
Source (original page 190): https://slaegtsbibliotek.dk/921770.pdf
Matrikel 73a Stokkemarke:
HF f.1750 Erik Hansen 1713-1783 (sto-12a>)
1h. NN 1713-1778 [same years as Ellen Jacobsdatter below, so perhaps a mistake)
b. Anders 1747, Hans Jørgen 1754 (kel-8a>)
2h. Ellen Jacobsdatter 1713-1778 [same years as NN above, so perhaps a mistake]
1775 Samme afstår fæste af husmandsstedet matr. 58 a Stokkemarke [to his son Anders Eriksen (1747-1829)]
HF 1779 søn Hans Jørgen Eriksen Fæster af matr. 8 a Keldernæs
HF 1786 broder væver Anders Eriksen (>sto-58a)
Source (original page 319): https://slaegtsbibliotek.dk/921770.pdf
Matrikel 8c Keldernæs (= kel-8a):
GF indtil 1784 Søren Vestens enke
GF 1784 Hans Jørgen Eriksen 1754 (*sto-73a)-
1h. NN 1744-1780
2h. Kirstine Christoffersdatter 1758-
b. Maren 1782, Margrethe 1785, Anne 1786
1779 Samme overtaget faderens fæste på ejendommen matr. 73 a Stokkemarke - afstået igen 1786
Source (original page 315): https://slaegtsbibliotek.dk/921770.pdf
So Hans Jørgen Eriksen's father was according to these informations Erik Hansen (1713-1783).
With his 1st wife unnamed got the sons Anders (in 1747) and Hans Jørgen (in 1754), then later remarried with Ellen Jacobsdatter.
Hans Jørgen Eriksen's 1st wife is unnamed and his 2nd wife is Kirstine Christoffersdatter -> we also know that he remarried again 3rd time with widow Karen Jørgensdatter in 24. August 1815 in Fejø Sogn.
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Begravet 10. Maj 1778 i Stokkemarke Sogn.
Erik Hansens hustru i Stockemarke. 65 Aar.
Source (page 247, right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17118784#156855,26297544
NB: The death of 1st wife (unnamed).
Trolovet: 5. Juni 1778.
Viet: 19. Oktober 1778 Stokkemarke Sogn.
Erich Hansen, enkemand i Stochemarche & Ellen Jacobs datter, pige fra Stochemarche.
Source (page 295, right, bottom): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17118784#156855,26297592
Begravet 4. Marts 1783 i Stokkemarche Sogn.
Erick Hansen i Stockemarcke. 70 Aar.
Source (page 251, right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17118784#156855,26297548
NB: No Probate under Knuthenborg Gods.
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Niels,
I'm still working on all of the information you sent and was trying to figure out a probate for Claus Nau:
First Funen National Cavalry Regiment.
1. regiments skifteprotokol (1710-1718): [Military Probate]
Anno 1715 on 28 March .....General-Major Chrestian Juel's Cuirasser Regiment deployed Ryttergaard udi Uggerslef.....
.. departed Claus Nau ..
..survived wife Catharina Thomesdatter ..
Sons:
Thomas Clausen, 21 Aar.
Source (page 210, right): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17070972#282541,55011361
So he was a cuirassier in the "1st. Funen national Cavalry Regiment" under Generalmajor Juel.
Cuirassiers were heavy cavalry with armoured breastplates [the shock troops on the battle field up and including the Napoleonic wars]
Your Conclusion:
Claus Nogs/Nau/Nov/Snou/Schnar [enormous spelling variations] (died 1715) & Catharina Thomesdatter
Thomas Clausen (1694 -1747) & Magdalene Hansdatter.
Claus Thomasen (1723-1800) & Karen Larsdatter (-1782)
Thomas Clausen (1748-1795) & Bodil Hansdatter.
Claus Thomsen/Thomesen (1782-1842) & Ane Hansdatter (1790-1842).
Question: Would you mind translating anything pertaining to his wife and children -- such as age, where they are living and any other relationships? It looks like a wonderful, informative probate about the family!
Thanks so much!
Joellen
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