I’m looking for information on my family that lived in Bohemia. The names were Klouda and Zrust. My
My great grandparents came to US in early 1900’s or late 1800’s and their names were Frances Klouda and Francis Zrust. It’s possible Klouda was spelled wrong when they arrived at the Port of Galveston TX
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Do you have a tree somewhere that we can view as we need a lot more information and sources that have already been found. We would love to help you.
Betseylee Browning
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I have been updating the tree for this couple on FamilySearch. I have been adding lots of sources from FamilySearch Historical records. Klouda is a very popular name in Czechia and I believe it is the correct spelling. Frank's ID number in FamilySearch is G35F-2GP.
Betseylee Browning
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You can check these sites:
Klouda - https://forebears.io/surnames/klouda
Zrust - https://forebears.io/surnames/zrust
Zrustová (female variant of this surname, used in Czech republic) - https://forebears.io/surnames/zrustová
You are able to see Czech republic when you click on it. There are regions (kraje), it can help You to see, where these names are located nowadays. Just check it out, there are more info and more helpful tools.
This site is much more detailed, when it comes to search for surnames in Czech republic, you can even see data few years back - https://www.kdejsme.cz/prijmeni/Klouda/hustota/
D.B.
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Here is a possible immigration https://tinyurl.com/ycd3z2e2. He could have come over under Franz. This one came with his mother Catharina.
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Good news. We now have names of parents. I was looking some more today and came across the 1925 Census
Name: Frank J Klouda
Age: 54
Birth Year: abt 1871
Birth Place: Aut
Residence Date: 1 Jan 1925
Residence Place: Newton, Jasper, Iowa, USA
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head: Head
Marital status: Married
Spouse: Francis Klouda
Father: Frank Klouda
Father Age: 75
Father Birth Year: abt 1850
Father Birth Place: Austria
Mother: Kathryn Bednar
Mother Birth Place: Austria
Parents' Marriage Place: Austria
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank J Klouda 54
Francis Klouda 49
Rudolph Klouda 23
Ben Klouda 21
Agnes Klouda 17
Frank Klouda Junior 15
Rose Klouda 13
Alice Klouda 11
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page 2
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I also found a John Klouda age 23 in US for 17 years in West Minneapolis, MN living with Frank and Frances.
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pg 1 1925 Census
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Hi Betseylee, Wellington think you’ve got further than I’ve been able to. My grandpa is Frank H Klouda. His dad was Frank J Klouda. His dad came from Bohemia in 1884. He married a Frances Zrust who came from Bohemia in in 1887. She had a sister Jennie Zrust. Family lore is that John Klouda is Frank J brother and he married Jennie Zrust. I can’t read the immigration sheet very well. If Catharina came here and is Frank J mother, is their a dad listed on the immigration sheet and why would my great grandpa allegedly the Franz have a different last name? How can I locate more information on the immigration? And do you know if Bohemia was once considered part of Austria because I keep having that pop up also. Thank you so much for your incredible work! Kim Routh
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Hi!
You are welcome. I feel a lot more optimistic that we can find a place of origin now that we have extra immigrants that we can search for.
The last two documents were not immigration but a 1925 Census on Ancestry: https://tinyurl.com/y9y3hw2w. I am enclosing a closeup of the two pages of the census records in case you don't have an Ancestry Subscription. It is a pretty amazing census as it is a state census and not a federal census. It provides the parent's names and ages.
The Czech Republic (Bohemia) was subject in government to the Austrian Hungarian Empire.
I have been adding more sources to the FamilySearch file. I will put these parents in and look some more in the immigration records to see these families coming over.
I like to use www.stevemorse.org as a search engine for immigration records but you will need an Ancestry subscription. Please make use of the wild cards listed in the instructions. Immigration records are also found on FamilySearch for free.
Our next step is to continue in US preliminary research gathering vital, church, immigration, naturalization, census, military, tombstones, sexton's records from the cemetery, obits etc. This article from our FamilySearch Wiki might help you:https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Tracing_Immigrants_Introduction
I will try to find some more research time on this but hope you will be searching too and telling me what you find. Please post any other documents that are not in the FamilySearch file.
Sincerely
Betseylee Browning
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pg 1 closeup of the 1925 census
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page 2 closeup of the 1925 census
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Attached is is a closeup of immigration. It is hard to prove it is the right one as the child's name is deteriorated. But the year of immigration is right and the mother's name is right. The Father is dead or came over earlier to get things ready.
Name: Cath Klouda
Gender: Female
Birthdate: 1844
Age: 40
Arrival Date: 10 Oct 1884
Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany
Ship Name: Braunschweig
Port of Arrival: Baltimore, Maryland
Page: 7
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Oh my goodness. Some things are starting to come together now. This could explain why my grandpa, Frank H Klouda never knew who his grandparents were. If the father died and the mom came alone with Franz whom I’m assuming is Frank J Klouda. I also think now after seeing the census that John and Franz we’re brothers. That Jennie Zrust is the mother of Frances Zrust Klouda. I think the story of marrying sisters is wrong given their ages in the Census. So now I need to find a marriage certificate or something in the Czech Republic for Them if possible. I know in that era a lot of marriages were not recorded. Maybe I need to make a trip to Prague??? You are a blessing and things are starting to come together. Thank you. Kim Routh
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This one is my grandpa Frank H as a child with his siblings and his parents.
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I’m searching like crazy! I’m not going to stop. My mom died in October and all my cousins are dead and I feel like I have to have this information to complete my life story. I’m spending hours a day on this! Thank you so much. Kim
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I think we got a really good break. When I went to add in the parents for Frank, FamilySearch came up with a very interesting match with a place. I am trying to find the church records to prove this. I hope that this will break it open. I will be back with you as soon as I have more info. Look at https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LKBQ-Z6W.
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Thank you so much! I’m trying to figure out who the Kathryn Bednar is. That name pops up on my DNA report!
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SOLVED https://tinyurl.com/y828ssmx
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When I get back from my walk I will work on the translation.
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I’m so excited! How do you translate this! You are very talented!
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marriages of parents: https://tinyurl.com/yd9rl86c
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The first URL that says birth of brother doesn’t work. States incorrect address. The second one I could open and was able to find the Klouda name but don’t understand any of it? Dates, names, etc. I need a translator for these documents and their very fancy writing!
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This URL doesn’t work either. Kim
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This is my usual policy. I do not speak Czech or German but buckled down and taught myself how to do this somewhat. I still need help a lot but I can do quite a bit now after many years. The only way I learned it was practice, watching webinars and attending classes. First, it involves learning the alphabet called Kurrent. In this community I have posted many sources that will help you on your journey. There are handwriting webinars, occupation lists, etc. Now that your family is broken over across the seas, which is the major battle, you now face a learning curve. So I usually help translate the first one or two documents so you can see how they are set up. I am working on the first translation still as there are paragraphs written in Czech that I need help with. Then I will enter this info into FamilySearch, which is having problems today. I truly do want to help you, or I wouldn't have spend all the hours I did researching. But I want to teach you how to fish. I will find out what is wrong with the URL. Please look through the sources I have posted on this site and copy off those things that will help you with your translations (of which you will have very many to do). I keep a notebook of things that help me. Please start with the webinars on the handwriting and by then I will have the christening and marriage record translated (probably by tomorrow). The great thing about Czech records (which are mostly written in German) are that the later ones state three generations in their records. They usually give a place of origin for each generation. They are wonderful records. I will be back as soon as I can with the first translations.
Betseylee
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Josef christening https://tinyurl.com/y84xbq4b 2nd down
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I tried this https://tinyurl.com/y828ssmx and it worked for me. FamilySearch has been having some problems today.
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I’m sorry. I understand. Just got very excited. I will watch your lessons and learn my native language. I’ve learned a lot already. A lot of sites I’m sent to want me to pay and subscribe. Except for This one which I’ve managed to complete 2 trees on! I love going on the search just get frustrated when they say you need to come visit the archives or pay for the documents. I have paid for Ancestry.com but I find more on this site. We are leaving for 2 weeks on Monday to camp. I won’t have internet so I will have to take a break from researching. Enjoy your weekend and again thank you so much. Kim
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