Cherokee connections - Allegedly (Lol..)
Of course.. The "we have Cherokee" but is it actually real? I'm trying to track my roots but I am stuck on great-great grandparents. and I can barely find records of my great grandparents to find THEIR parents. I am aware of the mixes, but I am tracking how relevant it still is, I do feel deeply connected but I refuse to claim anything before I am sure.
- Oklahoma, Kansas, Wichita
- Garrett, Williams, Gibson, Clark ( As main surnames )
- Great Grandmothers name ( Maybe ): Mary or Marie Garrett / Gibson
- Great Grandfathers name ( Extremely Likely ): Edward Gibson i'm sure
Here's a picture of my Great-Great grandmother ( No name ), And Great-Great Grandfather with his sisters.
extra: My great-great grandmother DID die at a young age it's said. so likely late teens to her early 20s ( still unsure, it's so annoying when nobody knows anything in the family and also nobody is as interested in their roots as I am )
I'm sure we have more family, but I don't have the pictures right now unfortunately, but these are my mains. I need to learn about all my greats, but i'm really stuck on my great-greats, but knowing more about my greats would also be good.. or great-great-greats which may also be impossible but it's worth a shot.
also, I am sixteen. please don't come at me calling me a " pretendian " or $5, I mean no harm and i'm putting in the work to understand, learn, and be sure of my roots before I claim them.
it's also Blackfoot, but Cherokee is heavily brought up ( sometimes ) brought up, so I'm curious on that first.
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Hi @D'asha26 and welcome!
It's awesome that you want to learn more about your roots and that you're focused on getting the facts 100% right. That's exactly what good genealogy is all about! Also, those are great family photos and I bet hold some clues! Just knowing that your great-great grandfather had many sisters could be a significant clue to finding the right records.
To get the best localized help, I highly recommend posting again in these specific FamilySearch groups:
-For Kansas roots: Mid-West Research Group
-For Oklahoma: Southern States Research Group.
Sharing roughly when and where each ancestor was born or died (even a guessed decade or state) will really help us search, too. In fact, if they're already on FamilySearch, you can share their profile IDs (the 7-character code next to their names) or profile links so we'll know just where to start.
Best of luck in your search!
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We'd love to help you connect to your ancestors in Family Tree. Do you have Edward Gibson's person ID number? It's a 7 digit alphanumeric number like the one highlighted (I don't think this is your Edward). The first step is to start attaching sources and look at the Dawes Rolls to see if he is listed.
Find out more about the Dawes Rolls here https://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes . You can view these records on FamilySearch for free.
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@LAFerg said:
@D'asha26 @shecorwe is right, that personal ID number would help us help you. Did you start you family tree in FamilySearch? The FamilySearch Research Wiki is a great place to find information about the places your ancestors lived and what information you can find for each place. This RootsTech video will help you learn to navigate the wiki:
https://www.familysearch.org/en/rootstech/session/how-to-use-the-familysearch-research-wiki
I think it is great that you are looking at your family history at 16! I started young also, and my family wasn't very much help either. However, the groups here are filled with like minded people with a lot of experience who are willing to help you.
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@D'Asha26 have you sent in a sample on ancestory.com? I was illegally adopted so there is zero paper trail I didn't find out until anybody that may have know anything was dead. So I submited a sample to ancestry
.com, I recommend them because they have the largest data base. Not only did I find my parents through DNA even though they didn't test, many of their nieces and nephews did., but it went back to the 1700s and I found out my grandmother's last name was Madrid, guess who else has that last name, The famous warrior, Geronimo, direct descendents. Let me know how that goes. I did have to do some digging and Thank God I had a cousin, the only other person that cared to find roots. We were never told we had native American in us because our elders were made to feel years of shame for it. How times change. Best of luck.
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Thanks for all the help guys! Sadly I didn't make a tree in family search, I made a tree in ancestry. neither have I done DNA yet, i'm planning to but maybe In a while, it's purely research right now while I save up, so here is my tree, I don't know if it's completely accurate but it took me 3-4 days for the grounding, and extra for the right hints and surnames
https://www.ancestry.com/invite-ui/accept?token=kfZN7q450fyLnOg6FBRuNjWLb1Ud5VIbqytOgRu-IAI=
If anyone wants they can help, I found some connections but not ones to these specific great-grandparents unfortunately.
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Well, if you've got a tree started - track those people down in FamilySearch records, and start building here.
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Thanks for all the help guys! Sadly I didn't make a tree in family search, I made a tree in ancestry.
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Now, I'm unsure on this, so wanted to ask, can they import that tree from ancestry, or do they need to start from the beginning, such as by finding the people already here in the FS records?
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also, I am sixteen. please don't come at me calling me a " pretendian "
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This one took me a minute, not understanding what that might mean, but I'm guessing that it's an accusation that one is pretending to ancestry that doesn't exist, for the purpose of social claims, etc?
We wouldn't do that here.
Finding the real family tree often brings up real surprises for folks, and sometimes dissolves some family-held beliefs as well.
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Here's a ramble, posting it separate from the other reply, on the subject of surprises in family tree lineages. In northern New Mexico/southern Colorado, there were settlements made in the 1600s, directly from Spain. Their descendants were Spanish, with very little other lineages involved, primarily because of the isolation of those locations. So, although they spoke the same language that the Mexican descendants that later travelled to the region spoke, the two people, those descended from Spain more directly, and those that descended through Mexican Spanish/Mexican Indian lines, would be two distinct groups.
But those that came directly from Spain had an "extra" in their lineage. They sometimes had Jewish ancestors. At the time in Spain, the Inquisitions had forced the Jewish communities underground. They might convert to Christianity on the surface, but still practiced their Jewish beliefs in secret. And to avoid persecution from the Spanish and Church authorities, some migrated to America, to New Spain, still hiding their Jewish beliefs.
But over time, that origin was forgotten, not passed down among the children. So in the 1900s, 2000s, you have this population of folks that were known to have a Spanish lineage, but unaware of the rest of the story. But it came to light anyway, in a medical problem. There is a type of breast cancer that is very common among certain Jewish family lineages. It's rare among other people.
But the medical records were showing this type of cancer showing up all too often among women in northern New Mexico and southern Colorado. That was somewhat of a head-scratcher, until the history of the people was more deeply understood, and it was known that those certain Jewish family lines, genetic lines, were well-represented in that region, generally unknown for centuries. Oi Vey!
So you never know what you'll find!
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David Allan Webber,
You have much knowledge for a 16 year old. Keep up the good research.
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