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Christening record, Cuautitlán, México, México, 1753?

davidleelambert
davidleelambert ✭✭✭
May 14 in Search

I'm trying to find additional evidence to support or contradict my guess that Miguel Lino // (M4SJ-3WR), christened 1753?, is a child of Valentin Joseph /de Santiago/ (MFVG-KS8) and Alberta María // (MFVG-KSY), married 1742.

Miguel's profile has exactly one source, with description "This extracted record was used to create this person in Family Tree" and further system note "We are unable to display the record for this source. Please try again later."

For several years until a few weeks ago almost every extracted-from-christening profile in this location had a second source with the same information as the profile and a link to the film (but not the particular image) from which it was extracted. However, since a few weeks ago, most of those sources appear to be gone.

So I went through all the films in that location covering that date, and in each film all the volumes covering that date, with no success:

DGS#

Film Title

FHL film

vol núm

vol años

vol title

image(s)

date(s)

4596048

Bautismos 1727-1771

645471

15

1724-1771

Baptysmos de el Pueblo de San Francisco Tehnopalco

324-5

Aug 30-Nov 13, 1753

4596049

Bautismos 1741-1757

645472

18

1741-1757

Baptismos delos naturales del Pueblo de S.ta Maria nativitas de tultepeque

63-64

Sep 23-Oct 8, 1753

4596049

Bautismos 1741-1757

645472

20

1744-1756

Bautismos de Españoles

359

Sep 27-Oct 1, 1753

4596049

Bautismos 1741-1757

645472

21

1744-1757"

Baptismos de el Pueblo de San Miguel

426

Sep 23-Oct 8, 1753

4596050

Bautismos 1750-1764

645473

22

1750-1757

Baptismos delos Yndios desta Parroquia de Quauhtitlan

90

Sep 25-Oct 4, 1753

4596050

Bautismos 1750-1764

645473

23

1751-1752

Baptismos de los tres Pueblos de Stã Barbara, de Sⁿ Matheo, y de Sⁿ Lorenzo

201

Sep 25-Oct 3, 1753

4596050

Bautismos 1750-1764

645473

24

1753-1772

Baptismos deste Pueblo de Sta Ysabel dela Visitacion

341-2

Sep 23-Oct 9, 1753

So it could be that the profile's date (and perhaps other information) was mis-extracted; or perhaps the christening was recorded out-of-order, or on a page that fell out and was replaced somewhere else in any of the volumes.

Is there any way to get the original film-link again, to at least narrow my search to one film, not three?

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Answers

  • Áine.ní.Donnghaile
    Áine.ní.Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 14

    @davidleelambert
    Have you tried using full-text search on that collection? That might narrow your search a little.

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  • davidleelambert
    davidleelambert ✭✭✭
    May 15 edited May 15

    I had tried full-text search for other inquiries related to this collection, and after @Áine.ní.Donnghaile 's suggestion I tried it here, without success.

    I did find the entry I was looking for just by browsing around, in fact it was in the next image after one of those I had identified as candidates, image 343 on FHL film 645473. The date was extracted correctly, but the entry is out-of-order, between one dated July 11th, 1754, and one dated October 4th, 1754. Perhaps the priest forgot to record it in 1753, and then remembered it a year later when the saints' day (Michael, Gabriel and Raphael) rolled around again?

    But the full-text index for that entry is as follows.

    En Veinte y nueve de Septiembre de Setedo y Sin sesenta y dos ↔ ↔ ↔ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ Niño , hijo legítimo Bauticé Solemnemente a Miguel ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ Lauriana de Elentin Joseph , y de ⌨ ⌨ verta ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ ⌨ fue Madrina Ana Beronica . y lo firmé ✓

    It has the date spelled out and wrong by a year (1752!), the child's name as just "Miguel", the father's name as "Elentin Joseph" (here written "Valentin Joseph", but written "Balentin" in other places), and the mother's name as just "verta". And the machine-indexed person index wasn't much better, it had the fixed word "Solem.te" ("Solemnemente", meaning "Solemnly") indexed as "Yglemte" and identified as the name of the christened child, with no relationships.

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  • Áine.ní.Donnghaile
    Áine.ní.Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    May 15

    @davidleelambert I'm glad you found the record you needed.

    Full-text is imperfect, but it is another tool. I sometimes rely on it to find a date near the one I need so I can browse fewer pages of difficult handwriting.

    I, too, have seen the handwriting OCR misread or hallucinate dates - 1953 for 1853 or 1853 for 1843. But, it can still shorten the time to find the record we want.

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