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FredRose2
FredRose2 ✭
April 16 edited April 16 in Search

I've used search a lot for German records in Paderborn diocese. But it seems like these aren't showing up in search results in the last month or so. I went back to try a relative who has been in family search for a long time. Her ID is MV9G-WYL.

I searched for Maria Anna Cloidt and I get the attached. I can even search for just the last name or variant. It seems like Borgentreich and other villages disappeared from the database(s)? I tried logging out and logging in, I even deleted all my cookies and started over.

Here is one record for her in a database, "Germany, Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898"

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRJ2-SWL

sorry, I've used search a lot and seems like a basic question but I'm really confused. I'm sure I'm sure I am doing something simply wrong.

Thanks!

Fred

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  • Áine.ní.Donnghaile
    Áine.ní.Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 16 edited April 16

    @FredRose2
    The index of the example record you linked, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRJ2-SWL , is showing with a padlock. That's an indicator of why it won't be found in a search.

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    There are a few reasons why a record shows with a padlock. We would need a staff or mod to examine the record set to know the exact reason for that collection.

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  • Áine.ní.Donnghaile
    Áine.ní.Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 16

    @SerraNola Could you help with this one? Tagging wasn't working in my previous comment. Thanks, as always, for your help.

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  • FredRose2
    FredRose2 ✭
    April 16

    Hi , thanks! I've gone back to look at a number of people in my tree connected to various German databases and they all have the padlock. I guess that's why I'm not seeing anything in search, either when I do it or when they show up in the upper right corner as additional sources..

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  • SerraNola
    SerraNola mod
    April 17

    @FredRose2 The padlocks do identify those that are not searchable due to restrictions. Sometimes these are in error so it's prudent to report anything questionable.

    For this particular film, both the index and the images are assigned No Access. I don't see anything in the change log for permissions so it is likely contractual, possibly because there are Jewish records on the same film which may fall under a different contract.

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  • Áine.ní.Donnghaile
    Áine.ní.Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 17

    Thanks for checking @SerraNola

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  • FredRose2
    FredRose2 ✭
    April 18

    Thanks  @SerraNola for checking. That's a bummer, a big part of my tree is in those Paderborn and German marriage/death records. I use original church records on Matricula for a primary source but these databases help so much for quick searches and for sources on FamilySearch trees. Thanks again. I suppose I should periodically re-check to see if the contract comes back into force.

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  • David Alan Webber
    David Alan Webber ✭✭✭
    April 19

    I'm unclear as to what it means to have indexes and records under a different contract? Does that essentially lock searchers out of those records, or does it mean that the searcher needs to contact a different organization in order to see those records?

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  • SerraNola
    SerraNola mod
    April 20

    @David Alan Webber No, it means that FamilySearch may have multiple contracts with a single custodian, each specifying distinct access rights for various categories of records.

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