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George Ezell Legge
George Ezell Legge ✭✭
June 22, 2025 in Get Involved

I have been doing Georgia sexton records, and I have the following questions?

Sexton name is given, do you say match or not a person.

Gives a vault name where the person is located. Match or not a person.

I know these are individua's names but did not know to match or not since it was not the person that had died.

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  • Ashlee C.
    Ashlee C. ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 23, 2025

    It doesn't matter whether the name is for the main person the record is about or not. If it is a person's name, mark it a Match. If it is not a person's name, mark it not a person.

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  • maryellenstevensbarnes1
    maryellenstevensbarnes1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 24, 2025 edited June 24, 2025

    @Ashlee C. Aren't we supposed to take into consideration the type of document when doing Name Reviews? Example: Sexton , yes it could be a name of a person, a place or a thing. I saw Sexton as the name of a mining claim ie Sexton, Sexton @2 etc. Sexton could also be a title; ie a gravedigger or a person who looks after a church/chapel. Just my opinion, it matters😎

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  • Ashlee C.
    Ashlee C. ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 25, 2025

    Maybe I misunderstand the question. The purpose of both Quick Name Review and Full Name Review seems to be to find the names of individuals. So if Sexton is the name of the person, it should definitely be marked a person and the name reviewed.

    If the sexton is the name of a place or a thing, it should not be reviewed.

    If you are using Full Name Review (not Quick Name Review because that deals only with names, not titles) and Sexton is considered a title, followed by the name of the person, then it should be reviewed with the name of the person. But if the document is referring only to "the Sexton," but no name involved, how would we determine who the sexton was? How would someone find the record once it is made searchable?

    I'll ask the engineers if we are supposed to review names if they are only titles and get back to you with their answer.

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  • MandyShaw1
    MandyShaw1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 25, 2025

    @Ashlee C. Do you anticipate that a further level of review will be required once AI has produced draft metadata from the full text transcription that the Quick and Full name reviews are helping with?

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  • Ashlee C.
    Ashlee C. ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 25, 2025

    @MandyShaw1 It is my understanding that the names only need to go through Quick and Full Name Review to be searchable.

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  • MandyShaw1
    MandyShaw1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 25, 2025

    Thanks @Ashlee C., but in that case how will the dates, places, relationships, and other metadata (occupations etc.) be reviewed, or the split of an image into multiple records, e.g. on directories or censuses? I have read a lot of blog entries and research wiki stuff about FS computer aided indexing, as you suggested previously, but I still don't understand how this all hangs together.

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  • Ashlee C.
    Ashlee C. ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 25, 2025

    I think I remember the engineers saying most of these names will end up in Full Text Search or something similar. So the "indexing" will look different than it used to. But I'm not entirely sure of that so I will ask the engineers for clarification.

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  • MandyShaw1
    MandyShaw1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 25, 2025 edited June 25, 2025

    Thank you @Ashlee C., that would be really helpful.

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  • MandyShaw1
    MandyShaw1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    October 15, 2025 edited October 15, 2025

    @Ashlee C.

    Did you ever get an answer to this from the engineers? I still don't think it is at all clear exactly how Full Name Review (for example) slots in to the overall FS Computer Aided/Assisted/Automated Indexing process as described on this excellent video

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/rootstech/session/advances-in-computer-automated-indexing-of-historical-records

    or here https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/FamilySearch_Computer_Aided_Indexing

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  • MandyShaw1
    MandyShaw1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 2 edited January 2

    @Sam Sulser could you or the team possibly pick this up & get some clarity from the engineers for us?

    The existing materials (as linked to in my most recent comment above) really only talk about the Spanish collections that have been AI-indexed already, and they don't cover the relationship between Computer Aided/Automated/Assisted Indexing and Get Involved at all.

    It is very unclear to me what the Get Involved reviews are responsible for.

    a) What Image Collections and record types are involved?

    b) Are the Name Reviews just helping train AI for future metadata extraction? Or are they reviewing Name metadata that AI has managed to extract from the relevant images, and that will at some point turn up in a Record Collection, tweaked in line with the Get Involved review output? Or something in between?

    c) Will Get Involved eventually move on to Places, Dates, Relationships, and the other necessary metadata?

    d) Or, perhaps, is Get Involved just aimed at improving Full Text indexing, not Record Collection indexing at all?

    It would be great if the CAI documentation in the Research Wiki could be updated to cover these matters, and (more generally) if it were clear to those Getting Involved exactly what they are helping with, which I honestly don't think is currently the case.

    Thanks a lot.

    (If I am missing something and other people fully understand this, please chip in!)

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  • MandyShaw1
    MandyShaw1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 11

    Flagged as unanswered question.

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  • Sam Sulser
    Sam Sulser admin
    January 13

    @MandyShaw1 Working on it 😀

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  • MandyShaw1
    MandyShaw1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 13
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/616751#Comment_616751

    Thank you v much @Sam Sulser, you're a star!

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  • maryellenstevensbarnes1
    maryellenstevensbarnes1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 14

    @Sam Sulser and @MandyShaw1 Here's another possible answer, especially for names like Sexton, etc. In Full Name Review, there needs to be an instruction to read/scan the entire part of the document or at least the entire sentence in which the 'name/word' appears — things like column headings or sentences make a big difference in whether a 'word' is actually a 'name' or is it a title ie Sexton or Elder, etc.

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  • MandyShaw1
    MandyShaw1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 13
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/616751#Comment_616751

    @Sam Sulser any news? The wiki page I linked to above was last updated in December 2025, but as far as I can see still only discusses Spanish language content & doesn't cover Get Involved. Thanks.

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  • Sam Sulser
    Sam Sulser admin
    February 17

    Everyone is highly busy getting ready for RootsTech so I'm not surprised I haven't had an answer yet. I will keep working on it though! Sam 😊

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