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Lisa Kay Horlacher
Lisa Kay Horlacher ✭✭✭
September 14, 2023 edited September 30, 2024 in Get Involved/Indexing

On image 1, place of birth is Marracan, P.I. Is that an abbreviation for Pilippines Islands? Or should I just put P. I.?

Also on the Given Name, is it necessary to put Cipriano C. OR Cabaluna? Can I just put Cipriano Cabaluna?

https://www.familysearch.org/indexing/batch/e17d2385-81ea-49a6-aac5-64da547d5c53

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  • erutherford
    erutherford ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 14, 2023 edited September 14, 2023

    P. I. is an old abbreviation for Philippine Islands (no S in Philippine). The US used Philippine Islands during the time the Philippines was a US territory.

    You will index the name as Cipriano Cabalun or Cipriano C.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 14, 2023

    I can find nothing in the project instructions about expanding abbreviations of placenames. In the "How to Index" images, both the first one for petitions and the one for declarations show the expansion of "N.Y." into New York, but that's part of the project title, so I would consider it a special case.

    I've given up on getting the forum search to cough up anything relevant: has this question been discussed for this project?

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  • barbaragailsmith1
    barbaragailsmith1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 14, 2023

    The Field Help for the Recorded Place says: "You should expand abbreviations or correct misspellings when you can tell what the abbreviation stands for or what the correction should be to the spelling."

    As for the name, the Gen. Indexing Guidelines say: "Names may have been written in more than 1 place in a document. Type the most complete version of the name in the indexing field." This isn't a variant of the name but it's given twice with one version being the most complete name.

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  • erutherford
    erutherford ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 14, 2023 edited September 14, 2023
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/527236#Comment_527236

    Field Help says the following: Include all aliases, nicknames, or variant names that were given for a person, separating them with the word Or.

    The FH contradicts the GIG, but the FH takes precedence.

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  • barbaragailsmith1
    barbaragailsmith1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 14, 2023 edited September 14, 2023

    A more complete version of the name isn't the same as a variant of the name. Name variations are different spellings, nicknames, or aliases, not an incomplete version using as initial. The help articles have an article for each of these situations (name variations and more complete name) because they're not the same.

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  • Lisa Kay Horlacher
    Lisa Kay Horlacher ✭✭✭
    September 15, 2023 edited September 15, 2023

    @Julia Szent-Györgyi The Field Help instructions is the purple circle with a white question mark inside it next to each entry field. Click on that purple circle. Next to Birthplace it says,

    "You should expand abbreviations or correct misspellings when you can tell what the abbreviation stands for or what the correction should be to the spelling."

    It has briefly been discussed in this forum. For example, I asked what BWI meant and was told it was Bristish West Indies. In this image, the birthplace of the spouse was listed as Roxbury, Mass. so I expanded it to Roxbury, Massachusetts. If I haven't read it in a previous discussion, I ask a new question. 😁

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