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Steve T Culverwell
Steve T Culverwell ✭
March 3, 2021 edited October 21, 2021 in Suggest an Idea

I need a way to search my sources in the sourcebox when I want to reuse a source. I have over a 1000 sources and can't find them very easily. Could this problem be solved?

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  • Paul W
    Paul W ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 3, 2021

    This has been requested for many years. However, I believe the source box was designed to be a temporary home for a relatively small amount of sources. Family Tree users will be split on this issue - many like to use it as you do, but some are like me and hardly use this feature.

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  • Paul W
    Paul W ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 3, 2021

    This has been requested for many years. However, I believe the source box was designed to be a temporary home for a relatively small amount of sources. Family Tree users will be split on this issue - many like to use it as you do, but some are like me and hardly use this feature.

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 4, 2021

    Steve

    .

    You are not alone ...

    .

    This have been requested by MANY of us, over the Years ...

    .

    Unfortunately ... 

    .

    The original premise of the "Source Box" was as a TEMPORARY 'Holding' place for "Sources"; before, they were "Attached". 

    .

    As far as I am aware, 'FamilySearch', STILL prescribes to that original premise of a TEMPORARY 'Holding' place for "Sources"; before, they were "Attached". 

    .

    Many Users/Patrons also still prescribes to that original premise of a TEMPORARY 'Holding' place for "Sources"; before, they were "Attached". 

    .

    But ...

    That said ...

    .

    There are also (now) MANY Users/Patrons (myself being one of them) whose workflow, is that the "Source Box" is a PERMANENT 'Holding' place for "Sources"; BOTH, before; and, after, they are "Attached".

    .

    I have almost 29,000 "Sources", in my "Source Box".

    .

    And, I have gone back and 'visited' quite a number of them, over the years, for various reasons - and, it is a real 'pain' to "Find" them in the many 'Pages' of my "Source Box".

    .

    There are "Pros" and "Cons", on both sides, of whether, the "Source Box" is, either, a TEMPOARY; or, a PERMANENT, "Holding" Place for "Sources".

    .

    Lets NOT go there ...

    .

    As an aside ...

    .

    You have to be aware that there are many competing priorities in "Family Tree" (not to mention the Other Parts) of 'FamilySearch'; and, there are limited resources available to 'FamilySearch'.

    .

    And, as such, as the "Source Box" is most likely NOT used by the MAJORITY of Users/Patrons, any suggested enhancements to the "Source Box" would, unfortunately, be "Very" (in fact, "Extremely") LOW on the "List" of the many competing priorities in 'FamilySearch'.

    .

    I have seen NO significate enhancement, to the "Source Box", since its inception; except, the "Removal" of the ability to "Print" the 'List' of "Sources" in my "Source Box" (that was originally there; but, was subsequently, taken away, for whatever reason ...)

    .

    Believe me ...

    I am one of those, who is 'hanging out', for enhancements to the "Source Box".

    .

    But ...

    I have just learned to, just live in hope ...

    . 

    As, it may NEVER happen.

    .

    Again, GREAT Suggestion ...

    .

    And, I am certain that 'FamilySearch' is 'listening'; but, is just 'hamstrung' due to limited resources.

    .

    Just my thoughts.

    .

    Brett

    .  

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 4, 2021

    Steve

    .

    You are not alone ...

    .

    This have been requested by MANY of us, over the Years ...

    .

    Unfortunately ... 

    .

    The original premise of the "Source Box" was as a TEMPORARY 'Holding' place for "Sources"; before, they were "Attached". 

    .

    As far as I am aware, 'FamilySearch', STILL prescribes to that original premise of a TEMPORARY 'Holding' place for "Sources"; before, they were "Attached". 

    .

    Many Users/Patrons also still prescribes to that original premise of a TEMPORARY 'Holding' place for "Sources"; before, they were "Attached". 

    .

    But ...

    That said ...

    .

    There are also (now) MANY Users/Patrons (myself being one of them) whose workflow, is that the "Source Box" is a PERMANENT 'Holding' place for "Sources"; BOTH, before; and, after, they are "Attached".

    .

    I have almost 29,000 "Sources", in my "Source Box".

    .

    And, I have gone back and 'visited' quite a number of them, over the years, for various reasons - and, it is a real 'pain' to "Find" them in the many 'Pages' of my "Source Box".

    .

    There are "Pros" and "Cons", on both sides, of whether, the "Source Box" is, either, a TEMPOARY; or, a PERMANENT, "Holding" Place for "Sources".

    .

    Lets NOT go there ...

    .

    As an aside ...

    .

    You have to be aware that there are many competing priorities in "Family Tree" (not to mention the Other Parts) of 'FamilySearch'; and, there are limited resources available to 'FamilySearch'.

    .

    And, as such, as the "Source Box" is most likely NOT used by the MAJORITY of Users/Patrons, any suggested enhancements to the "Source Box" would, unfortunately, be "Very" (in fact, "Extremely") LOW on the "List" of the many competing priorities in 'FamilySearch'.

    .

    I have seen NO significate enhancement, to the "Source Box", since its inception; except, the "Removal" of the ability to "Print" the 'List' of "Sources" in my "Source Box" (that was originally there; but, was subsequently, taken away, for whatever reason ...)

    .

    Believe me ...

    I am one of those, who is 'hanging out', for enhancements to the "Source Box".

    .

    But ...

    I have just learned to, just live in hope ...

    . 

    As, it may NEVER happen.

    .

    Again, GREAT Suggestion ...

    .

    And, I am certain that 'FamilySearch' is 'listening'; but, is just 'hamstrung' due to limited resources.

    .

    Just my thoughts.

    .

    Brett

    .  

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 4, 2021

    Steve

    .

    Furthermore ...

    .

    Here are just some of the, more recent, previous posts in the 'Feedback' Forums ...

    [ BOTH, in the OLD ("GetSatisfaction") 'Feedback' Forum; and, the current (NEW) "IDEAS" 'Feedback' Forum ...]

    .

    4 January 2021

    Search Field Within Source Box

    https://community.familysearch.org/s/idea/0874V000000sjshQAA/detail

    .

    1 September 2020

    Be able to attach image more than once to a person for sources

    https://community.familysearch.org/s/idea/0874V000000sit6QAA/detail

    .

    21 July 2020

    The latest of 'update' was total disaster to Fanily Search

    https://community.familysearch.org/s/idea/0874V000000sinHQAQ/detail

    .

    27 April 2020

    Add a search feature to the Source Box

    https://community.familysearch.org/s/idea/0874V000000siX2QAI/detail

    .

    7 April 2020

    Please allow searching within the Source Box.

    https://community.familysearch.org/s/idea/0874V000000siTVQAY/detail

    .

    28 January 2020

    New "sorting" tool for source box

    https://community.familysearch.org/s/idea/0874V000000siKjQAI/detail

    .

    And ...

    .

    There are almost, countless, others ...

    .

    As you can 'see', the inaction, is a 'pet peeve' of mine ...

    .

    Just so you are aware.

    .

    Brett

    .


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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 4, 2021

    Steve

    .

    Furthermore ...

    .

    Here are just some of the, more recent, previous posts in the 'Feedback' Forums ...

    [ BOTH, in the OLD ("GetSatisfaction") 'Feedback' Forum; and, the current (NEW) "IDEAS" 'Feedback' Forum ...]

    .

    4 January 2021

    Search Field Within Source Box

    https://community.familysearch.org/s/idea/0874V000000sjshQAA/detail

    .

    1 September 2020

    Be able to attach image more than once to a person for sources

    https://community.familysearch.org/s/idea/0874V000000sit6QAA/detail

    .

    21 July 2020

    The latest of 'update' was total disaster to Fanily Search

    https://community.familysearch.org/s/idea/0874V000000sinHQAQ/detail

    .

    27 April 2020

    Add a search feature to the Source Box

    https://community.familysearch.org/s/idea/0874V000000siX2QAI/detail

    .

    7 April 2020

    Please allow searching within the Source Box.

    https://community.familysearch.org/s/idea/0874V000000siTVQAY/detail

    .

    28 January 2020

    New "sorting" tool for source box

    https://community.familysearch.org/s/idea/0874V000000siKjQAI/detail

    .

    And ...

    .

    There are almost, countless, others ...

    .

    As you can 'see', the inaction, is a 'pet peeve' of mine ...

    .

    Just so you are aware.

    .

    Brett

    .


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  • Bryce Roper
    Bryce Roper ✭
    March 11, 2021

    You will be happy to know that Family Search is currently working on several enhancements to the source box. Being able to do a key word search on the title of the source is one of the things we are working on. Currently the search is done in the browser which only allows for searching the sources shown on each page. We are adding a back end search that will search on the title for all of the sources in your source box.

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  • Bryce Roper
    Bryce Roper ✭
    March 11, 2021 edited March 23, 2021
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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 11, 2021

    Bryce

    .

    This is something new ...

    'FamilySearch' has been keeping that 'under wraps' ...

    .

    PLEASE; Please; please ... tell us more ...

    .

    When you have 1500+ pages that "Browser" Search, page by page, is absolutely USELESS ...

    [ I can do that by just looking down each page/screen, one at a time ... ]

    .

    A key 'Word' search on the 'Title' of a "Source", sounds like a good start ...

    .

    You say, 'several' enhancements ...

    .

    Can you give us a 'Hint' as to WHAT they (at least, some) are?

    .

    We have been 'hanging out' for enhancements to the "Source Box" for YEARS ...

    .

    Are we going to be able to search by, (Person) "Name"; and/or, URL?

    .

    PLEASE; Please; please, let us know ...

    And, how much longer, may we have to wait - just a 'ball park figure' ...

    [ NOT hold you to anything ... we would just love to know what stage they are at ]

    .

    'Thank You' in advance.

    .

    Brett

    .

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 11, 2021

    Bryce

    .

    This is something new ...

    'FamilySearch' has been keeping that 'under wraps' ...

    .

    PLEASE; Please; please ... tell us more ...

    .

    When you have 1500+ pages that "Browser" Search, page by page, is absolutely USELESS ...

    [ I can do that by just looking down each page/screen, one at a time ... ]

    .

    A key 'Word' search on the 'Title' of a "Source", sounds like a good start ...

    .

    You say, 'several' enhancements ...

    .

    Can you give us a 'Hint' as to WHAT they (at least, some) are?

    .

    We have been 'hanging out' for enhancements to the "Source Box" for YEARS ...

    .

    Are we going to be able to search by, (Person) "Name"; and/or, URL?

    .

    PLEASE; Please; please, let us know ...

    And, how much longer, may we have to wait - just a 'ball park figure' ...

    [ NOT hold you to anything ... we would just love to know what stage they are at ]

    .

    'Thank You' in advance.

    .

    Brett

    .

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 11, 2021

    Bryce

    .

    This is NEW ...

    We certainly have NOT been told/advised ...

    .

    I was just checking/looking ...

    .

    It appears that the LIMIT on "Number" of "Folders" in the "Source Box" has MAGICALLY increased, from the x50 Limit!

    .

    IS that the case?

    WHAT is the Limit NOW?

    .

    Ah ...

    Now, I know ...

    .

    NOW ... x200

    .

    Knowledge Article

    How do I use the folders in my Source Box?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-use-the-folders-in-source-box

    .

    Where is states:

    Quote

    ------------------

    Use folders to organize the sources in your Source Box.

    You can create up to 200 of them.

    ------------------

    .

    Which is CONTRADICTED by this ORIGINAL "Knowledge Article" ...

    .

    ORIGINALLY ... x50

    .

    What is a Source Box?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-source-box

    .

    Where is states:

    Quote

    ------------------

    Features of Source Box include:

    • The ability to organize your sources in up to 50 folders.

    ------------------

    .

    That needs to be addressed/fixed ...

    .

    Brett

    .

    ps: I exhausted my Original x50 Folders almost immediately ...

    .

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 11, 2021

    Bryce

    .

    This is NEW ...

    We certainly have NOT been told/advised ...

    .

    I was just checking/looking ...

    .

    It appears that the LIMIT on "Number" of "Folders" in the "Source Box" has MAGICALLY increased, from the x50 Limit!

    .

    IS that the case?

    WHAT is the Limit NOW?

    .

    Ah ...

    Now, I know ...

    .

    NOW ... x200

    .

    Knowledge Article

    How do I use the folders in my Source Box?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-use-the-folders-in-source-box

    .

    Where is states:

    Quote

    ------------------

    Use folders to organize the sources in your Source Box.

    You can create up to 200 of them.

    ------------------

    .

    Which is CONTRADICTED by this ORIGINAL "Knowledge Article" ...

    .

    ORIGINALLY ... x50

    .

    What is a Source Box?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-source-box

    .

    Where is states:

    Quote

    ------------------

    Features of Source Box include:

    • The ability to organize your sources in up to 50 folders.

    ------------------

    .

    That needs to be addressed/fixed ...

    .

    Brett

    .

    ps: I exhausted my Original x50 Folders almost immediately ...

    .

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 11, 2021

    Bryce

    .

    Probably NOT within your purview ...

    .

    But ...

    .

    The LIMIT of ONLY x200 "Sources" being able to be attached to an individual/person seems a little 'minuscule', when you can attach/add x1000 Memories to an individual/person ...

    .

    Knowledge Article

    What are the data limits for people in Family Tree?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-are-the-data-limits-on-about-people-in-family-tree

    .

    Where it states:

    Quote

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    In Family Tree, the record for a person has the following data limits:

    • Spouses: 200
    • Parents: 100
    • Children: 400
    • Names, facts, and events in the Other Information section: 200
    • Sources: 200
    • Memories: 1,000
    • Other persons identified as "not a match": 400
    • Discussions: 50
    • Individual notes: 50 (each note can have up to 10,752 characters)
    • Relationship notes: 12 (each note can have up to 10,752 characters)

    ------------------

    .

    Just my thoughts.

    .

    Brett

    .

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 11, 2021

    Bryce

    .

    Probably NOT within your purview ...

    .

    But ...

    .

    The LIMIT of ONLY x200 "Sources" being able to be attached to an individual/person seems a little 'minuscule', when you can attach/add x1000 Memories to an individual/person ...

    .

    Knowledge Article

    What are the data limits for people in Family Tree?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-are-the-data-limits-on-about-people-in-family-tree

    .

    Where it states:

    Quote

    ------------------

    In Family Tree, the record for a person has the following data limits:

    • Spouses: 200
    • Parents: 100
    • Children: 400
    • Names, facts, and events in the Other Information section: 200
    • Sources: 200
    • Memories: 1,000
    • Other persons identified as "not a match": 400
    • Discussions: 50
    • Individual notes: 50 (each note can have up to 10,752 characters)
    • Relationship notes: 12 (each note can have up to 10,752 characters)

    ------------------

    .

    Just my thoughts.

    .

    Brett

    .

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  • Bryce Roper
    Bryce Roper ✭
    March 12, 2021

    The changes to the source box we are working on are:

    1. Search- You will be able to search the entire SB or if you are in one of the 200 folders you can search in just that folder. Search will be on the title only.
    2. Attach- You will be able to attach a source by searching for a person in the tree by name or pid.
    3. Filter the list by type. FS source, Memory source, or User defined source.
    4. Add the date field
    5. Sort by date field
    6. Filter by a date range


    What other features would you be interested in?

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  • Bryce Roper
    Bryce Roper ✭
    March 12, 2021 edited March 23, 2021
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