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Nancy Louise Harrison
Nancy Louise Harrison ✭
August 16, 2021 edited August 18, 2021 in Family Tree

How do I connect my brother's individual record with mine. When I search on his record #, the system tells me it doesn't exist. I have him listed in my family group under a different record #. When I try to merge the two, the system won't let me, I am guessing because he is living. Does he have to do this?

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  • darlog
    darlog ✭✭✭
    August 16, 2021 edited August 16, 2021

    @Nancy Louise Harrison Yes, you are correct in assuming that this information is showing this way because he is living. Yes, there is information about this. First go to the question mark with the circle around it in the top right corner of the page.


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    Then select "help center." Then type in key words "private space." There will be several articles, but this is the one you should select: How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?


    Good luck in your efforts to help your brother connect information.

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  • Sanra
    Sanra ✭✭✭✭
    August 16, 2021

    Hi Nancy,

    Once your brother adds his living relatives to his Family Tree, (parents and maybe grandparents), until he gets to the first deceased ancestors in each line, after that he will see the records the same as you do, ID numbers and all. The Living individuals on each record are private, the deceased can be seen by all.

    Wishing you both success in your work on Family Tree.

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  • Nancy Louise Harrison
    Nancy Louise Harrison ✭
    August 16, 2021

    Thank you. It just makes no sense to me that even if we both give consent, we can't be connected in our own family group and that there has to be two or three records of the same person.

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 17, 2021 edited August 17, 2021

    @Nancy Louise Harrison

    Nancy

    I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...

    Furthermore to what has already been proffered ...

    In relation to your latter 'Comment' ...

    FYI

    "Privacy" is paramount ...

    There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.

    "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.

    Here an old 'standby' of mine, that I have previously proffered on occasion ...

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    Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons DO NOT understand the basic 'nature' and 'premise' of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.

    Please let me explain ...

    [ And, please bear with me; as, I am VERY 'Verbose' ... that is my 'style' ... ]

    We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.

    We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.

    "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).

    We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.

    We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.

    And, most importantly ...

    We DO NOT even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, Our OWN "Deceased" Ancestors/Family/Relatives in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.

    "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'. 

    You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' with another "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', regardless of who the User/Patron was that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron who initially created them - they are "Public".

    If fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".

    No other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.

    We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.

    Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:

    ▬ You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.

    ▬ You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.

    There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User(s)/Patron(s).

    There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.

    "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.

    Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.

    Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.

    'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.

    I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.

    Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch' in regard to "Private Spaces" and "Living" individuals/persons:

    Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/who-can-see-my-living-relatives-in-family-tree

    How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-private-space-in-family-tree

    What Family Tree features are available in my private space?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/family-tree-features-available-in-my-private-space

    Can my living relatives share a Family Tree private space to work together?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/share-a-family-tree-private-space-with-family

    Can I transfer my Family Tree private space to another user?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/transfer-my-family-tree-private-space-to-another-user

    Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' (and, other programmes as well):

    Overview

    'FamilySearch'

    "Family Tree"

    https://www.familysearch.org/tree/overview

    Getting Started with Family History

    Here are the main things you need to know as you get started

    https://www.familysearch.org/home/etb_gettingstarted

    How to Use the Family Tree

    https://www.familysearch.org/blog/en/how-to-use-family-tree/

    What is The Family History Guide?

    https://media.familysearch.org/what-is-the-family-history-guide/

    The Family History Guide

    Introduction

    About The Family History Guide

    https://www.thefhguide.com/introduction.html

    The Family History Guide

    https://www.thefhguide.com/.

    I hope this helps.

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    I know that this might not help; but, I hope this gives you some perspective.

    Brett

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