I am looking for a William Quayle born in Scotland in 1853, died in Newcastle-upon -Tyne in 1912
He was the son of a William Quayle and married a lady called Grace Gilchrist in 1887 in Newcastle. Any information please about him and his parents.
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Michael
Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.
I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
Not that I can be of much help/assistance ...
Regarding, William QUAYLE born in Scotland in 1853
Married: Grace GILCHRIST in 1887 in Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Died: 1912 in Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
FYI
Outside of 'FamilySearch'
BIRTH
I had a quick 'look' in the "ScotlandsPeople' Website.
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
I could NOT find any reference to a Birth/Christening (including using "Name" Variants).
[ eg. Church of Scotland (Old Parish Registers); Roman Catholic Church; &, Other churches ]
The ONLY thing that I did find in the "ScotlandsPeople' Website, which MAY be something worth looking into, was a reference in a Record in the "1881, Census of Scotland"
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Surname: QUAYLE
Forename: WILLIAM
Year: 1881
Gender: M
Age at Census: 29 ... [ Which is around the Year of Birth of 1853 ]
Ref: 692/1 25/ 33
RD Name: Leith North
County / City: Midlothian
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Census Returns - Census - Search results
MARRIAGE
I had a quick 'look' in the "FreeBMD" Website
Marriage
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=79138624:9622&d=bmd_1627336144
DEATH
Another quick 'look' in the "FreeBMD" Website
Death: Registration District = Castle Ward, Northumberland, England
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=127809921:3533&d=bmd_1627336144
and ...
On-Line search facility, 'Civil Registration' for "Birth", 'General Registry Office' ( GRO ), 'England and Wales'
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
Brett
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As you may know, civil registration began in Scotland in 1855. Before that, we are reliant on church records and especially if he was not a member of the Church of Scotland those records may not have survived. My advice would be to look for William Quayle (Jr) and his family in the 1861 and 1871 censuses. You can get indexes that include other members of the household at Ancestry.com and FindMyPast. You can get indexes of individuals only (but you can find some of the other household members for free with a trick I can show you) at ScotlandsPeople. ScotlandsPeople also has a more comprehensive free index of the 1881 census that was originally created by FamilySearch, and is the only website with images of the original census documents.
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Michael
I am so sorry ...
I humbly apologise ...
In my haste ... as, I was also busy answering other 'Questions' in the Forum ...
I just quickly selected the 1861, 1871 and 1881 Census'; and, inadvertently, missed selecting the 1811 LDS Census way down at the 'Bottom' of the list.
I inadvertently overlooked, the fact, that there is, a FREE "LDS" version, of the "1881, Census of Scotland", in the "ScotlandsPeople" Website - there is NO 'trick'.
So, once 'A van Helsdingen' referenced the aforementioned ... I took another quick 'look' ...
And ...
The result was even more confusing ...
The whole household
Here is the "Link" to the "Index"
And, here is the "Link" to the actual Household "Record"
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/view-image/nrs_census_lds/5022852?return_row=0
Unfortunately ...
▬ A Boarder.
▬ Birth Place = England.
▬ Thus, NO Parents.
Very interesting though.
Just maybe your Ancestor was actually Born in England, not Scotland; and, was just working up in Scotland for a time.
The mystery deepens ...
Brett
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@Brett . The 'trick' I referred to has nothing to do with the 1881 LDS census index. It relates only to Scotland's People's own census indexes and involves looking at the page and line numbers to work out which individuals belonged in the same household.
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@Michael O'Callaghan do you have the original copy of his marriage certificate? Have you looked at the 1891 and 1901 censuses to verify his birthplace? If we can confirm he was born in Scotland we could rule out the census entry that Brett found and focus on finding the correct entry for him in the 1881 census (maybe he was in England already?)
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Oh ...
Just that ...
That is NO 'Trick', I use it all the time.
And, I show others. how to do the same.
Oh, well, not to matter ...
We did eventually get to the bottom, of that "1881, Census of Scotland" record, in the end.
Which just deepens the mystery ...
Brett
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ER !! yes I do have a copy of the Marriage certificate which gives his age as younger than he is but no clue as to his birth place. The 1891 census gives his birth place in Scotland. To add to my confusion there are 3 William Quayles, all tailors, all with a son called Robert, 2 with a daughter Called Flora, one with a son called William and one with a son called William Hector. The last is the one I am chasing with so far no luck .
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