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Carms66
Carms66 ✭
August 3, 2021 edited August 3, 2021 in Family Tree

I don't think I can continue using family search.

Unless you can assist me. I have multiple records for my great x 10 grandmothers Catherine Pillat LY6D-YSC. She has basically been hijacked and all her information replaced with a different person; Ouenta Du plat. Instead of creating a new person, she has absorbed the Catherine Pillet from France in 1663 to a native american, with a modern photo dressed woman in native robes and now I cant even add her parents as they are all added with other details. Why didn't she just add a new person with the name Ouenta (Catherine)Du plat as she even states is her name?


I don't want a fight but this is not working.

Her parents are Marie Marguerite Moulinet / Moulin

B:1621 Cogné, Eure-et-Loir, Centre, France

D:1665 La Rochelle, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France

and  

Pierre Pilliar (Pilet-Pillard)

B:02 Nov 1619 Rennes, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France

D:19 October 1665 Plumaugat, Dinan, Cotes-d'Armor, Bretagne, France

They are not natives and not even in the USA.. So what can I do?

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 3, 2021 edited August 3, 2021 Answer ✓

    Right now, LY6D-YSC has two pairs of parents, both with other children: one pair in America, the other in France. The LY6D-YSC Change Log shows LY6D-YSC has been for many years a conflation of a First Nation woman and a French woman. It is good that you are fixing this.

    1. Detach LY6D-YSC from the parents in France.
    2. Then, make a new PID for your Catherine, as a child of the parents in France.
    3. You mention multiple records for your Catherine. Multiple historical records? Are any attached to LY6D-YSC? Detach them from LY6D-YSC and attach them to the new PID.
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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 3, 2021 Answer ✓

    You are in the Tree view. Switch to the Person view. There is a row of tabs at the top of the page: Overview Tree Person Recents . . . Click on Person.

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 3, 2021 edited August 3, 2021 Answer ✓

    That button removes only the parent-child relationships. The page will remain the same.

    Any information on LY6D-YSC that properly belongs to your Catherine you can copy-paste into the new page and then delete from LY6D-YSC. Once you detach the attached sources from LY6D-YSC, the FT hints system should offer them on your Catherine's new page. If not, you go through the Sources on your Catherine's parents, husband(s) and children, looking for Unfinished Attachments. Some of those will want to attach to your Catherine.

    It feels scary, so remember that on FT nothing is gone when you delete it. It is all in the Change Logs.

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  • betsyemhuff6010
    betsyemhuff6010 ✭
    August 3, 2021 Answer ✓

    @Carms66

    Sorry this has happened. I know too well how you feel. I am going to start using Ancestral Quest or Roots Magic. You take care, and have a blessed day.

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  • cesarnarcisotinocoperez1
    cesarnarcisotinocoperez1 mod
    August 3, 2021

    Hola Carms66 ve si esto puede ayudarte.

    Article Id: 7877

    , Publicado 10 de septiembre de 2020

    La corrección de los parentescos de padre/madre hijo suele requerir algo de análisis antes de sumergirse en el caso. Hay dos problemas básicos: registros duplicados o enlaces incorrectos de parentesco.

    Le puede ser intimidante resolver este tipo de problema, pero tenga la seguridad de que se puede eliminar o reemplazar un parentesco vía la función de Últimos cambios. Encuentre al final de este artículo un enlace que conduce a estas instrucciones en la lista de Artículos relacionados

    Te comparto el enlace del artículo de conocimiento que ampliará la información:

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/como-corrijo-los-parentescos-de-padre-hijo-en-arbol-familiar


    Las personas equivocadas aparecieron en mi árbol, ¿cómo me deshago de estas personas que sé que están equivocadas?

     

    Una forma de hacerlo es averiguar cómo llegaron a su árbol y luego eliminar esa conexión. El artículo anterior muestra cómo utilizar los últimos cambios en el ancestro. Mire el antepasado que no pertenece, abra los últimos cambios para mostrar todos y encuentre la conexión que se hizo con su antepasado. A continuación, tendrá la opción de realizar cambios. Espero que esto ayude

     

    Últimos cambios en el árbol genealógico • FamilySearch

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-see-what-changes-have-been-made-about-a-person-in-family-tree

    Utilice la función Últimos cambios para realizar un seguimiento de los cambios de sus antepasados ​​en el Árbol genealógico.

     

    Para eliminar a una persona, debes romper las relaciones que la conectan con tu árbol. Recuerde que el hecho de que pueda ver un registro no significa que esté conectado a sus antepasados. No hay árboles únicos como en otros sitios web, pero el árbol genealógico es un árbol compartido común.

    Si la persona está conectada como cónyuge, es posible que deba quitar a los hijos del cónyuge incorrecto, así como desconectar a los cónyuges. El siguiente artículo del Centro de ayuda le ayudará en esta situación.

    Si la persona está conectada como cónyuge, es posible que deba quitar a los hijos del cónyuge incorrecto, así como desconectar a los cónyuges. El siguiente artículo del Centro de ayuda le ayudará en esta situación.

    Eliminar o reemplazar cónyuges incorrectos en el árbol genealógico • FamilySearch

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/a-person-in-family-tree-has-the-wrong-spouse

    Si una persona en Family Tree tiene el cónyuge equivocado, puede reemplazar o eliminar la relación.

     

    Si la persona que desea eliminar está conectada como un niño, entonces desea seguir el procedimiento descrito en el siguiente artículo del centro de ayuda.


    Corregir las relaciones entre padres e hijos en el Árbol Familiar • FamilySearch

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-correct-parent-child-relationships-in-family-tree

    Cuando un niño en el árbol genealógico está conectado con la madre o el padre incorrecto, corrija las relaciones entre padres e hijos.

    Sugerencia: Tome nota de los nombres y números de identificación de las personas cuyo parentesco se está cambiando. Esto le permitirá deshacer un cambio rápidamente

    Suprimir o cambiar el parentesco de padre/madre-hijo no suprime o cambia el parentesco de pareja de los padres. Si la madre o el padre es incorrecto, se necesita suprimir o reemplazar también a uno de los cónyuges

    Buena Suerte.

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  • DebDT
    DebDT mod
    August 3, 2021

    We are very sorry that you are having a difficult time with others changing your information for your ancestor. Very good suggestions have already been provided. In addition there are several things that you might try. We hope this helps.

    Use latest changes to possibly restore your records

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-see-what-changes-have-been-made-about-a-person-in-family-tree


    Try to unmerge the many merges made to your ancestor. This may prove difficult.

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-fix-a-merge-that-has-information-from-multiple-people-in-family-tree

    Contact other contributors to help them realize your research shows different. You will be able to help them as well as making sure they don't keep putting in false information. Make sure that you have good sources.

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-contact-or-message-a-user-who-contributed-to-family-tree-or-memories

    Use a third party partner to create your tree that only you can change.

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-find-partner-products
    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-the-purpose-of-familysearch-and-family-tree


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  • Carms66
    Carms66 ✭
    August 3, 2021

    Contacting others doesn't seem to be working. I have tried most of those solutions and it is only causing conflict. I don't need conflict this is supposed to be enjoyable :(

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  • Carms66
    Carms66 ✭
    August 3, 2021 edited August 3, 2021
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    I have been trying to use your method to detach, however, I can't find that button on my tree to detach her.

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  • Carms66
    Carms66 ✭
    August 3, 2021

    OK, I've found the remove button, but what happens to all the details associated with her. I'm afraid of what will happen.

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 3, 2021 edited August 3, 2021

    @Carms66 I see you detached LY6D-YSC from her parents in colonial America. That is not the correct choice. LY6D-YSC has many years of collaboration notes concerning the woman in colonial America. So, please re-attach LY6D-YSC to those parents and detach LY6D-YSC from the parents in France.

    Would you like me to do it? I have some time right now.

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  • Carms66
    Carms66 ✭
    August 3, 2021

    I am not sure, you mean to put her back to first Nation Heritage? She is from France and I tried to only give her back the french heritage that goes with her and me. Not the First Nation.

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 3, 2021

    Yes, put LY6D-YSC back. The page LY6D-YSC belongs to a First Nation woman. Your person of the same name needs a separate page of her own.

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  • Carms66
    Carms66 ✭
    August 3, 2021

    No you make one in the name in Ouenta Du plat. Not our Catherine Pillet.

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 3, 2021

    No you make one in the name in Ouenta Du plat. Not our Catherine Pillet.

    LY6D-YSC has been the First Nation woman for years.

    Why do you care what PID your Catherine Pillet has? Is the PID published somewhere?

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  • kimberlybangerter
    kimberlybangerter ✭
    August 3, 2021 edited August 3, 2021

    Carms66,

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    I hope you find the resolution you are seeking!

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  • betsyemhuff6010
    betsyemhuff6010 ✭
    August 3, 2021

    I agree with @Carms66 here, this isn’t enjoyable when someone continuously goes in and rips up your tree. My heart aches for @Carms66

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  • dontiknowyou
    dontiknowyou ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 3, 2021

    @Carms66, thank you for the vote of support. Returning to your concern, would you like to continue here or make an appointment for a private consultation with someone who has been vetted and approved for such private contacts?

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