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May I have this Marriage proclamation translated please?

CarolEKallmeyer
CarolEKallmeyer ✭✭
May 27, 2021 edited July 28, 2021 in General Questions

I found this record in Marriage proclamations for Wentzwiller, Haut-Rhin, Alsace, France. It has names that are in my search; may I please have it translated?

Something about Joseph Jordain age 49

maiden Anna Maria Mundwiller and J. ?. Mundwiller age 2?

infant of masculine gender

named Balthazar Mundwiller

Jager

http://www.archives.haut-rhin.fr/search/result#viewer_watch:a011455803299qw73he/3ce39fa96d

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  • LWhitehead56
    LWhitehead56 ✭✭✭
    May 28, 2021

    I cannot help with the translation but I have contacted two people who may be able to help you. By posting this comment I am keeping you post on the forefront of the discussion que. I will be checking back to see if you have received the help you need.

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  • LWhitehead56
    LWhitehead56 ✭✭✭
    June 4, 2021 edited June 8, 2021
    J'ai trouvé ce disque dans les proclamations de mariage pour Wentzwiller, 
    Haut-Rhin, Alsace, France. Il a des noms qui sont dans ma recherche ; puis-je
     le faire traduire s'il vous plait ?
    
    http://www.archives.haut-rhin.fr/search/result#viewer_watch:a011455803299qw73he/3ce39fa96d//


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  • LWhitehead56
    LWhitehead56 ✭✭✭
    June 26, 2021

    Carol,

    Have you received help with this translation?

    Linda

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  • CarolEKallmeyer
    CarolEKallmeyer ✭✭
    June 27, 2021

    Thank you Linda,

    I have received a translation from DidierDarrort1 which was very helpful. I would like to know why these two birth records were included in the "Marriage Publications" for Wentzwiller?

    And I could not see the specific translation of the phrase:

    "maiden Anna Maria Mundwiller and J. ?. Mundwiller age 2?"

    I was hoping this would give the name of the father in these two birth records. I have a comment in for DidierDarrort1 regarding the births included in "Marriage Publications". Thank you for your continued assistance with this family; I am grateful.

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  • LWhitehead56
    LWhitehead56 ✭✭✭
    June 28, 2021

    Carol,

    Sometimes I have found marriage records in Denmark where a child was a couple of years old when parents got married. In one case the child's baptism and the parent's marriage was performed on the same date. A researcher in Salt Lake explained that sometimes a minister or priest would travel around to the various farm holdings and perform baptisms and marriages and then move on and not return for months or years. I wonder if this could be the case in other countries with vast rural areas.

    I hope DidierDarrort1 is able to help you.

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  • Paul-Marc HEUDRE
    Paul-Marc HEUDRE ✭✭
    August 15, 2021

    Bonjour @CarolEKallmeyer

    It's not a marriage certificate, but rather a birth certificate.

    This act was entered by mistake in the registry of marriage publications of the municipality of Wentzwiller.

    (this is also what is indicated in the margin of the act)

    Essentially :

    The child Balthazard JORDAIN was born on January 7, 1827 at 2 o'clock in the morning at the home of Joseph JORDAIN (paternal grandfather) who works as a cabaret-keeper.

    The mother's name is Anna Maria MANDEVILLER, 22 years old, without a profession.

    The mention "Demoiselle" (in french) in the act suggests that she was single when she gave birth and moreover the name of the dad is not mentioned in the act.

    (So check with your previous family research)

    Best regards - Paul-Marc

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  • CarolEKallmeyer
    CarolEKallmeyer ✭✭
    August 27, 2021

    Thank you Paul-Marc Heudre!

    This makes the record more clear; I appreciate your gift of reading this language!

    Gratefully,

    CarolEKallmeyer

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  • LWhitehead56
    LWhitehead56 ✭✭✭
    August 29, 2021

    Thank you @Paul-Marc HEUDRE for helping with this translation.

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