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@Jim Kilby if Lois was def born in Pottawamie county, that is one thing that doesn’t change on birth record when someone is adopted... the dates, places, doctors and witnesses all stay the same. Only parents names are changed and if they had her name changed it would reflect her new name. So I have a list of all Lois’s born in Pottawamie county for that time period ...
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Rene thanks so much for sharing this information. It is a shame that the Intermediary Search program is so expensive.
On the positive side, DNA tests can be purchased for $59 if you catch a sale at Ancestry.com or one of the other major DNA companies. It is important to choose a company with a large database if you want to try to find matches to your family.
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Unfortunately, this is not always the case. I have corresponded with adoptees that have found that their birth places and birthdates have been altered.
I agree that a search for children named Lois in Pottawamie County is a good technique when you only have a first name and a place of birth. You can then try to eliminate these children by finding them in a different family prior to the adoption, or other techniques to disprove your theory.
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Yes, I’ve emailed 1st and 2nd cousins.
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Shared DNA
17.2%
1282cM
Although he is my nephew, we show 1st cousins because his mother and me have different mothers.
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I’ve looked so many places. I don’t remember.
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You are correct, he shares the correct amount of DNA to be your half-nephew. Do you use the charts found at https://dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4 ?
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Have you uploaded your DNA to the sites where you can upload for free?
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Oh wait! @Jim Kilby Now I remember why the “Lois Bingaman” one was so interesting... firstly it’s very close to the name “Bingman” and secondly there’s no county listed... and because Oklahoma wasn’t required to keep records until a later date, this could be info that was supplied by the new parents or whatever ... I have a feeling this may be your Lois. Do you think any of Mae’s family would’ve taken her in? The curious thing about them telling you that they were in care of a family member is the records from the home show Joe was placed out and Lois wasn’t at that time.
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I'm on Ancestry, 23andMe, FamilyTreeDNA. Are there others?
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Oh I forgot to tell you I have the digital version of that article. I’ve gotta find it and I’ll post it
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am I the only one here who has to search for updates in this chat? I get a notification and click on it, then I have scroll up and down and watch the time stamps to find the new posts. Is there anyway to simplify? Am I missing a setting or something?
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Thank you.
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Wow!
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That’s great. She had to have been born in Pottawatomie County and adopted in Oklahoma County. Did you see my post of the home accounting as of Nov 1, 1916?
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Never heard of the site.
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I saw the lists you got from OHS... Joe was adopted in Oklahoma county ... do you have something that says Lois was too? Did I miss something?
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That is where the home was located. Guthrie had a home but it was a different home. Would Lois have to have been adopted from the home where she lived...right?
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Well.. I thought I had it all figured out the other day and I woulda said yes. But, I now 🤷🏻♀️i dont know🤷🏻♀️ ... the more I read about Oklahoma “institutions” it seems the less I learn lol. I assumed that the child would def have to be taken from the home where they “lived”, but yesterday I was looking through the records of he Cornish Children’s Home in Jefferson County, OK... and they had several children listed as “sent to ‘xyz’ children’s home/orphanage” so 🤷🏻♀️i dont know🤷🏻♀️ how they ran things or what the rules or regulations were.
so they were in the home at Oklahoma City? And not the one at Guthrie?
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They were married in Pottawatomie County and Josephine was born in Pottawatomie County. I don't have any inference that my father lived anywhere other than Pottawatomie County.
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I'm jumping in a bit late on this so my apologies if you've done this, but have you uploaded your DNA to GedMatch? Don't leave it in a little lake like 23Me, FTDNA or Ancestry., put it in the ocean where they are all combined. Its free or maybe $5 now. And have you actually sent away for the death records and been rejected? I once wrote to KS for a death record and had my MIL be the requester and sign as a great-granddaughter. That is supposed to be too far removed under the law, but they sent me the records anyway.
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At the time, the "harm" was that at that time blood descendants had a legal claim to inherit property from any blood ancestors. Today you'd have to hire a lawyer and sue for your inheritance and the courts would throw out your case because the parent obviously meant to disinherit the child by refusing to legally acknowledge them as their child. The adoption record laws have not caught up to the probate laws; they should be available 100 years after the child's birth. But anyway, that was the thinking.
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I uploaded DNA to Ancestry, 23&Me, MyHeritage, GED. Everyone I could think of.
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I uploaded DNA to Ancestry, 23&Me, MyHeritage, GED. Everyone I could think of.
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Who did you test with? (You can't upload to Ancestry or 23&Me., so I am guessing that you meant that you tested there and uploaded to the other places.)
How many centiMorgans of DNA did you share with your closest unknown matches?
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I tested with 23&Me and Ancestry.com and I have uploaded to MyHeritage and GEDMatch. My highest centiMorgans on GEDMatch is 348. However, in the last week or so, a DDoki has uploaded their results on Ancestry and it shows we are 1st cousins (948 centiMorgans). That is the second highest centiMorgans score (2nd only to my newly discovered John Rigler (1271 cM). John's daughter, my great niece, has a cM score of 845 so this new person DDoki with a score of 945 cM, if not related to John, must be related to Lois. Right? I'm awaiting a reply. I suppose he/she could be related to my mother's side. I'll keep you posted. Also, are there any other DNA sites to upload to?
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948 cM is a great match! Have you used the tools available at DNAPainter.com? This is a small snippet from the Shared cM tool.
You will see the possible relationships that you could share when your match has 948 cM's. If you use the actual tool, you will see that it shows your relationshp charts too.
This is an exciting match. I think that there are several of us that can help you determine whether your matches are maternal or paternal.
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