What are the limits of a family tree? I'd like to enter my whole family but try to understand the li
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@tiborfabian1 tiborfabian1
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FYI
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There is NO 'Limit' on the number of, individuals/persons; or, Couples; or, Parent-Child Relationships, that you create/add to "Family Tree: of 'FamilySearch'.
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But ...
That said ...
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Please DO NOT add any individuals/persons (and, their associated 'Relationships') via a GEDCOM File. - that is, more often than not, not necessary.
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Here is a "Knowledge Article" in 'FamilySearch' on the 'Data Limits' for individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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What are the data limits for people in Family Tree?
[ Article Id: 1147, Published September 04, 2020 ]
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Where it states:
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In Family Tree, the record for a person has the following data limits:
• Spouses: 200
• Parents: 100
• Children: 400
• Names, facts, and events in the Other Information section: 200
• Sources: 200
• Memories: 1,000
• Other persons identified as "not a match": 400
• Discussions: 50
• Individual notes: 50 (each note can have up to 10,752 characters)
• Relationship notes: 12 (each note can have up to 10,752 characters)
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I would suggest, certainly enough, 'to play around with' ...
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I hope this really helps.
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Brett
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@tiborfabian1 tiborfabian1
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FYI
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Furthermore ...
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Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons DO NOT understand the basic nature and premise of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.
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Please let me explain ...
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We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
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We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.
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We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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I hope this helps.
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Brett
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@tiborfabian1 tiborfabian1
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FYI
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Now ...
Regarding GEDCOM Files ...
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You can; but ...
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Please DO NOT upload a GEDCOM File in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Upload GEDCOM File in the "Genealogies" Part of 'FamilySearch', that is fine; but, please NOT into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Because ...
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Some of the reasons that Users/Patrons (like myself) DO NOT want the ability to upload a GEDCOM File into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' are:
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(1) It is most likely that individuals/persons in a GEDCOM File are ALREADY in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; and, most Users/Patrons DO NOT even take the time to look to see if any one in their GEDCOM File is already in "Family Tree", in some instances, negating the need to even upload the GEDCOM File.
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(2) There has been (many) cases where Users/Patrons, using the "Compare" process (of the upload) have "Dismissed" a "Possible" Match with an individual/person already in "Family Tree"; so that, their "Record", from their GEDCOM File, is loaded into "Family Tree", regardless; just so that, their "Record" appears in "Family Tree" (and, in some instances, for Members of the Church, so they can do the "Temple" Work, despite the fact that the "Temple" Work is ALREADY done with the "Possible" Match with the individual/person already in "Family Tree").
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(3) Even with the "Compare" process (of the upload), there has been (many) cases where Users/Patrons have uploaded THEIR version of an individual/person in their GEDCOM File, on top of (ie. Over) an individual/person ALREADY in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' that has been there for MANY years and is well documented and "Sources" - in many instances obliterating all of the documentation and "Sources".
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(4) If an individual/person is ALREADY in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', there is NO need to up uploaded one's version of an individual/person from one's own GEDCOM File - just take note of the the 'FamilySearch Person Identifier' (PID) of the individual/person that is ALREADY in "Family Tree"; and, one can go back later to ensure what information/detail is recorded and attached for that individual/person. Just DO NOT uploaded one's version of an individual/person in their GEDCOM File, on top of (ie. Over) an individual/person ALREADY in "Family Tree" - obliterating all of the documentation and "Sources" ALREADY in place/on record.
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(5) The "Hours" (sometimes "Days") of work, by other Users/Patrons, that can be needed to CORRECT the DAMAGE done by the upload of a GEDCOM File can be disheartening.
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I am sorry ... 'off my soap box' ...
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Enter (ie. 'Create) the individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' one at a time - on a one by one basis.
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Many of the individuals/persons most probably ALREADY exist in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Only one or two of one's generations of "Living" Family members (and, perhaps one or two of one's generations of "Deceased" Family members) may be required to be entered/input in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; before, some of the "Deceased" individuals/persons from Ancestral lines ALREADY existing in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', are discovered.
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Use the "Find" facility/function/feature to Search "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', you may be surprised to find some (if not, many) of them already there.
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Many well established and documented (eg. "Sourced") individuals/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' have been RUINED by the upload a GEDCOM File into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Of course, IF, one has looked in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' and NONE of one's Ancestral lines are in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; THEN, the upload of a GEDCOM File would be the way to go - BUT, ONLY if one has looked in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' and NONE of one's Ancestral lines are in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'
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I hope this gives you some perspective.
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Brett
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@tiborfabian1 tiborfabian1
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FYI
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Plus ...
Working IN 'Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' WITH "Third Party" Applications ...
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IF, you do not already; THEN, one option for working with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is to use one of the "Third Party" Applications (being one of the "Family Tree Management" programmes) that is "Certified" to work with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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The "Third Party" Applications that are "Certified" to work with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' can be found in the "Solutions Gallery" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Here is a direct link to the "Solutions Gallery" of 'FamilySearch':
https://partners.familysearch.org/solutionsgallery/s/
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And, here is the direct link to the "Family Tree Management programmes" themselves:
https://partners.familysearch.org/solutionsgallery/s/list?category=family_tree_management
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"Third Party" Applications that are "Certified" to work with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' include, BOTH, 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes ("Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
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Some of the "Third Party" Applications that are "Certified" to work with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' have, BOTH, a Basic FREE version; and/or, a Premium PIAD (ie. "Subscription") version, the latter just having more 'Bells and Whistles'. The Basic FREE version is sufficient for most, the average, User/Patron. Whereas, the Premium PAID (ie. "Subscription") version is the choice of most experienced and 'power' Users/Patrons.
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You can use ONE or MORE than one, of the the "Third Party" Applications, the choice is yours.
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Most of the "Third Party" Applications that are "Certified" to work with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' that are "Family Tree Management programmes, have INTERFACES that work/connect (directly) with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' that can, "Download"; and, "Upload" (ie. "Transfer", both, Data; and, individuals/persons) between, the "Third Party" Application; and, "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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I hope this may also help.
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Brett
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Thanks for the quick and detailed answer.
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@tiborfabian1 tiborfabian1
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FYI
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I am so sorry for my 'tirade' ...
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I know ... 'Information Overload' ...
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With good reason ...
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The ONLY way that I known of, to add a "Bulk" Pedigree, in one go, to "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is via a GEDCOM File.
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And, for those Users/Patrons (of us) that have seen their(our) [especially, Direct]"Ancestral" lines in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', that had been their for many years; and, were well documented and "Sourced", ruined/decimated by a (the 'dreaded') GEDCOM File (upload), they would understand.
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As a precaution, I thought that pass on, as much as possible - in one go.
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Again, I am sorry.
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Brett
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That's OK, Brett. I'm a Data Scientist, and as such, I can take a lot;-)
Thanks again.
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@tiborfabian1 tiborfabian1
I am glad, someone can ...
I am certain, that most, I just 'turn off' ...
Or, in the least, 'put them to sleep' ...
Brett 😉
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zzzzzz…, Huh?
Oh, sorry! I fell asleep reading Brett's descriptions (lots of good information there for you) 😊
One other bit of trivia that might be of use is that the single Family Tree for the world in FamilySearch's database currently has 1.3 Billion person records in it. A large chunk of those are duplicates from the evolution of the system that will ultimately be merged away reducing the number of entries some. So there is PLENTY of room for all your records.
Note though that it is entirely likely that like most other people starting here, you will discover that most of your relatives are ALREADY in the tree! So in that case, you will spend more time vetting and adding to records that are already there and then adding the relatives that are missing.
Also note that any records that you create in the system for people who are still alive will only be visible to you in your FS account (this due to privacy laws, etc.).
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Its in the TRILLIONS. . . LOL
There is no max
This is a collaborative database where we all are entereing records.
The total records in the database is currently over 1 Billion.
Family Tree data entered is not stored in a private user tree - but rather a public collaborative database that we all share.
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