Are these siblings correctly attached?
Hello! Recently somebody helped me finding my great grandmother's parents and I found she's got a lot of siblings. I would like if someone can verify if i attached them correctly to my tree, i mean, if they are really siblings of my great grandmother.
My grandmother's name is Ilona/Ilka Molnar KCP4-J1C, whose mother is Erzsebet Molnar L8CW-ZRW ( https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L8CW-ZRW ). Ilona's father is unknown. I believe probably all the people that I attached to Erzsebet are really their children because they were baptized in the same area as my great grandmother Ilona/Ilka.
I would like to know if they were all actually my great grandmother's children and why the baptismal records all say unkown father. Also I wanted to know if in the records is written Erzebet birthplace and birthday.
Many thanks!
Ezra Kai
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I'm writing about Hegedus. One of my few times great grandmother was one.
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Quite a few records to go over. Just a quick advice: Molnar being a VERY common Hungarian surname (meaning Miller), I would look for more supporting data when establishing a connection, such as 1) the address, 2) the godparent(s).
I'll try to look into all of them maybe today.
Zoltan (born and raised in Hungary)
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I had a look. It appears you're dealing with a handful of different families.
The first thing you should notice even without knowing Hungarian are children born in rapid succession which is biologically impossible.
Secondly, the religion of the mothers are different: reformed, lutheran, and roman catholic. For this, you should read the handwritten text, not just the indexed material. Some Hungarian would be beneficial for this.
I did capture the data in a small spreadsheet in English. If you're interested I can pass it to you.
Quickly though:
- Ilka was by religion Reformed (see the marriage record). That leaves you with children Gyula, András, Ilka, Erzsébet, Erzsébet Ilona.
- Ilka and Erzsébet were born one month apart, which would exclude Erzsébet.
- On the birth record of Ilka you see that the mother, Erzsébet, was from Szabadszállás, which is is a town about 5ö km to the south of Budapest.
- The father of András, András Kránkó, acknowledged the birth of his son and married the mother at the roman catholic parish in the VIII. District on July 14, 1890.
- The father of Gyula, Pál Juhász, farmer, appearing in person, acknowledged being the father
It looks that most of the children on record are not in your family.
Good luck with your research.
Zoltán
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Thank you Zoltan. If you can pass me the spreadsheet I would be grateful!
So to sum up, my relative Ilka/Ilona was born from Erzebet but the other records FamilySearch suggested me are from another Erzebet, isn't it?
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I didn't know the records have more information such as adresses. Moreover I didn't pay attention that there are records from many different churches! Unfortunately my greatparents were the last relatives that spoke hungarian on my family. If it is not trouble for you could you translate any useful information from Ilka's records for me?
Thank you so much
Ezra
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I sent you the spreadsheet with the birth record data translated.
Do you need the marriage record?
Z
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Yes please
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